American Naturopathic Certification and Accreditation Board in Washington, DC.

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  1. deanhughson

    deanhughson New Member

    How would you like your chiropractor or naturopath to take a weekend workshop and become a board certified Naturopathic Endocrinologist?

    JUNE 25-26: NATIONAL INSTITUTE OF ENDOCRINE RESEARCH BOARD CERTIFICATION PROGRAM--A National Approach to Endocrinology (Advanced Review) in Carlsbad, California. Program includes 6 modules (3 on site & 3 home study) and certification of completion. Completion of the program provides eligibility to sit for the National Board in Naturopathic Endocrinology, given by the American Naturopathic Certification and Accreditation Board in Washington, DC. CONTACT: 888-285-9098
     
  2. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    Believe it or not, there's also a Diplomate in Chiropractic Internal Medicine out there...

    Don't you just love the scent of snake oil?
     
  3. deanhughson

    deanhughson New Member

    specialities

    I just love specialists....might take one of these courses myself some weekend so I can add some fancy initials to my eggman title
     
  4. Chip

    Chip Administrator

    ANCAB is completely fraudulent. It is essentially the lobbying arm of Clayton College for Natural Health.

    Although they've carefully done everything possible to cover their tracks, ANCAB was started by a Clayton grad as a scam to accredit Clayton. But somewhere along the line, Clayton hired somebody competent who figured out that if it were separated and made to look legitimate, it could be a scam to allow Clayton grads to get credibility and Clayton (and its lobbyists) to make inroads to state elected officials in trying to prevent licensure of legitimately trained naturopaths (i.e., those graduating from properly accredited residential schools.)

    I find it interesting that ANCAB is now claiming to be in DC. Last I looked, they were operated out of Texas, from the home of the Clayton grad that started it.
     
  5. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    One of the arguments AGAINST licensing naturopathic doctors has been that the discipline itself is medical fraud. Licensure would lend it legitimacy.

    I don't think that this is true. The accredited naturopathic schools, I think, are trying to provide a decent basic and health sciences education. Heck, they are even undertaking modest research projects and publishing the results. For instance, Byster (in my native Seattle) recently conducted a double blind study and determined (much to their chagrin, I suspect) that echinacia (spelling?) has ZERO effect on the progress of the common cold.

    I admit that I'd like to see better opportunities for patient contact but that may come with time.
     
  6. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    Sheesh I can't even spell "Baystr"!
     
  7. BillDayson

    BillDayson New Member

    There's a US Dept. of Education recognized specialized accreditor for naturopathic 'medicine', isn't there?

    The Council on Naturopathic Medical Education apparently accredits three naturopathic schools:

    Bastyr University in WA, National College of Naturopathic Medicine in OR, and Southwest College of Naturopathic Medicine in AZ.
     
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  8. deanhughson

    deanhughson New Member

    history

    There is another school in BC now Boucher that is recognized.

    interesting story..The Council itself losts it recognition for a while.

    Naturopathic medicine is a wild and wooly field. Alot of psuedoscience tied in with some real science. The only thing they can't do in Az where I live is sign a death certificate.
     
  9. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    Death certificates

    Of COUSE not! No naturopath ever loses a patient!
     
  10. Chip

    Chip Administrator

    Dean is correct, Arizona is one of a few states that has a separate licensing board and completely separate, well defined protocols/policies for naturopathic physicians.

    They are allowed to prescribe medications of natural origin (such as penicillin) but not synthetics (such as ampicillin) and to be primary care physicians. Many insurers in AZ provide coverage for naturopathic care.

    That's the model of responsible holistic medicine; regulated and overseen, with proper credentialing procedures, including requiring the practitioner to pass the national licensing exam.

    This is *exactly* what the Clayton people *don't* want, because their fraudulent practitioners learn their craft from "textbooks" that are mostly off-the-shelf popular self help books on nutrition, with very little grounding in basics like biology, chemistry, physiology... and yet these same bogus practitioners hold themselves out as qualified to diagnose and treat (even though Clayton claims they never, ever do that.)

    It's a huge mess that once again is a case of what's good for the public is being obscured by basically the greed of one man (Lloyd Clayton) and the now thousands of people he's fleeced into believing that they're getting a legitimate education.
     
  11. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    Hunh?

    Wait a minute.

    What scientific rationale could possibly support an arbitrary legal restriction on "synthetic" vs. "natural" antibiotics?

    If the N.D. isn't sufficiently well trained to prescribe the one, why should he be trusted with the other? Antibotics are the result of "scientific" not "holistic" theory and practice.

    Perhaps the BEST protection for the public would be to require applicants for a naturopathic license to present an M.D. or D.O. degree!
     

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