Apparently there aren't just medical schools in St. Kitts...

Ran across this today... looks like the St. Kitts equivalent of an English-speaking medical school for people that didn't get into veterinary school in the US:

http://www.rossvet.edu/Veterinary_School/school_overview.html

 

Ross has been discussed at times on this very forum (although the non-wonderful search engine is not finding it for me), including Oregon's dilemma, since it had appeared on the Oregon list, but was then bought by another school with recognized accreditation, so what is Oregon to do?

I wondered earlier if the distance learning portion of the curriculum consisted of them mailing you a sick cat, and you fixed it up and mailed it back to them.

 

Ross University, which includes medical and veterinary schools, was acquired in 2003 by DeVry Inc., reportedly for $310 million.

The Ross schools appear to be among the more credible in the Caribbean. The medical school is California-approved (which is often regarded as a high standard). The vet school actually provides only the first 7 semesters of training; Ross students get the final 3 semesters of clinical training at an accredited US vet school. Ross apparently has affiliations with 23 of the 28 accredited US vet schools (including Oregon State and Cornell).

 

Uh...recognised by Oregon State, a government school, but not by the infamous 'Oregon list'!

 

I don't recall that anybody has looked at the current accreditation page on the SKN government website and said what's right or wrong with the current picture.

 

interesting............

Hi Doc Bear,

I was curious, where did the information or where did you get your information that ROSS VET SCHOOL offers or offered DL?

 

Re: Re: Apparently there aren't just medical schools in St. Kitts...

I only let US trained vet's see my cat and my dog. I insist on seeing the degree and knowing where my vet graduated from, before treating my pets.

 

DL

Doc, look at these sites and it might help one figure out what is going to happen.....rumor is January 1,2006 DL vet school

DeVry Inc. Announces Fall Enrollments at DeVry University and Ross University
http://www.globeinvestor.com/servlet/WireFeedRedirect?cf=GlobeInvestor/config&vg=BigAdVariableGenerator&date=20041207&archive=bwire&slug=20041207005911

Ross Laptop Program
http://www.rossvet.edu/Laptop/laptop.html

eCollege & DeVry Renew Strategic Online Distance Education Agreement
http://www.trainerslink.com/content/view/337/49

 

I don't know the history of Ross University and ODA, but Ross is not currently included on the list of "Invalid degrees in Oregon".

Graduates of foreign vet schools are normally required to have their education reviewed and certified by equivalency boards before they can pursue licensure in the US. Then they have to pass the same licensing exams as US graduates.

Oregon ODA is probably not very concerned about veterinary degrees, or other professional degrees such as medical or law degrees. These are tightly regulated fields where the right to practice is controlled by rigorous licensing exams, not by academic degrees. And if you can pass the exams, then you presumably learned something in college, even if your school was unaccredited.

In effect, the licensing exam procedure serves to validate the degree, whether or not the degree is formally accredited.

 

so so so so so so

Not the same state I know.....but using the above as the foundation for my "open" comment:

Then why does the State of California have to "pre-approve" foreign medical schools........................

 

I once asked TAMU Vet school about Ross, and they said, if you transfer from Ross to TAMU you will have to start over again.... Of course I asked that question 2-3 years ago.

 

Caldog:

It is? Since when?

 

o say can you pay a fee..........

I can understand where "caldog" is going with the high standard of education. And I can also understand FWD.

But the reality is, it's absurd (did I get the it's part right, at least?) for a state to regulate or impose standards of accreditation upon a foreign school, therefore effectively ursurping a soverign governments right to regulate.

I do agree that the state medical board of california has the right to evaluate each applicant on a case by case basis.

 

ok well maybe not.........

Balazo:

Since the California State Medical Board thinks it has become the holy see of medical education.

Remedy: The CSMB should just put out a shingle to once and for all "accredit" medical schools.

 

I know , I know...................

No, I don't know.




I give in, what is wrong with it? In fact what is the link?

 

Re: so so so so so so

There are hundreds, perhaps thousands, of different licensing boards among the US states and territories. They do not all have consistent practices, even within the same state or discipline, and it's not always clear why.

One reason for the difference may simply be the sheer number of applicants and schools. Worldwide, the number of veterinarians and veterinary schools is much, much lower than the number of medical doctors and medical schools. Since the worldwide veterinary community is relatively small, it's probably more feasible for veterinary boards to evaluate foreign degrees on a case-by-case basis (as is currently required).

Medical boards, on the other hand, probably have to deal with a far larger number of applicants from a far larger number of foreign medical schools. So they may need to streamline their review procedures, especially in large states like California, which attract many potential immigrants. Pre-approval of foreign medical schools is one way to do this.

 

California medical accreditation respected?

The following quote is one opinion, from www.caribbeanmedicine.com:

 

Re: California medical accreditation respected?

Caldog,


Yes! It is an opinion.

Question(s):

Does the opinion have merit?

Is the opinion being "spread" in the background by longer established medical schools, so in the foreground, newer schools get punk'd?

Ooooops, I may need to start a new thread.

 

Re: o say can you pay a fee..........

Sovereign governments are free to establish any standards for medical schools or medical practice that they like. The State of California also has the right to establish any standards for medical schools or medical practice that it likes.

Since the California standards are enforceable only in California, the State of California has not "usurped" the rights of any foreign government in any way.

Foreign governments are also free to restrict or disallow credentials issued by the State of California, if they feel that these do not meet local standards. For example, it is possible to become a practicing attorney in California without attending an accredited law school. Many state and foreign governments regard California's legal education requirements as substandard, and will not allow such individuals to practice law within their respective jurisdictions. This does not mean that they are "usurping" California's rights to regulate California attorneys.