Cheapest Medical school on Earth

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  1. dl_mba

    dl_mba Member

    http://www.aiims.edu/aiims/academic/mbbs/mbbs2k.htm

    FREE AND EXPENSES

    Each candidate selected for admission shall have to pay the following fees and dues immediately after the announcement of the list of selected candidates, and after they are declared medically fit by the Medical Board, failing which his/her admission shall be cancelled and the next candidate on the waiting list shall be admitted in his/her place.



    1. Registration Fee Rs. 25/-
    2. Tuition Fee Rs. 150/- (Being half of Rs. 180/- per annum payable in two equal installments)
    3. Hostel Rent Rs. 90/- ( Being half of Rs. 180/- per annum payable in two
    equal installments)
    4. Annual Gymkhana fee
    Rs. 40/- ( Payable in one installment)
    5. Laboratory fee Rs. 10/- (per term of six months)
    6. Caution Money Rs. 100/- (Refundable)
    7. Pot fund Rs. 30/- (Being half of Rs. 60/- per annum payable in two
    equal installments)
    8. Electricity Charges Rs. 18/- (Being half of Rs. 36/- per annum payable in two
    equal installments)
    9. Mess Security Rs. 500/- (Refundable)
    10. Student Union fee Rs. 7/- (Being half of Rs. 14/- per annum payable in two
    equal installments)

    Total



    Rs. 970/- (for outstation candidates)

    970.00 INR India Rupees = 22.1461 USD United States Dollars

    Rs. 332/- (for local candidates)
     
  2. Guest

    Guest Guest

    There are just so many responses to be made here... pot money....in my undergrad years pot money was much higher. Caution money...who needs caution money we're young. Mess.... oh I could go on and on.

    Thank goodness most of it is payable in installments.
     
  3. TCord1964

    TCord1964 New Member

    Actually, if you join the military as an officer and have them send you through medical school, they PAY you to go. I think that's a better deal, if you don't mind some of the "exotic" places you might have to practice medicine afterwards.
     
  4. lchemist

    lchemist New Member

    The Cheapest?

    In many countries the education is free.

    I do not find the Indian case particularly cheap, when the normal practice in many educational systems is to offer free education from kindergarden to PhD.
     
  5. AGS

    AGS New Member

    Pros and Cons of Medical School

    Well there are disadvantages for military paying for your medical schools .....and advantages ....

    I have found out some information ....If the military will pay for your medical school ; you will not recieve a certain officer ranking position .They will force you to get into a specialty for their own need and not your interest or endeavors.....

    You may want to work in the emergency rooms but they make you study podiatry because there is a need .....

    secondly, your officer ranking will not be high ..they will step on you ....

    conclusion; it is better to finish medical school and do some internships for a year and them transfer to the military ....

    YOu will be a high ranking officer and get to call your own shots ....
     
  6. bing

    bing New Member

    Re: Pros and Cons of Medical School

    AGS doesn't know what he is talking about with regards to the military and medicine.

    First, there are multipe ways to get into medicine in the military. You can attend USUHS, the military medical school in the DC area. With that admission you will be made an officer in the branch of the military you are in. You get paid as an officer to attend medical school. On graduation you are made an O-3, captain in AF and Army. Everyone starts as a n O-1 there.

    The next way is to get a medical scholarship to go to a DO or MD school. With this, you go into the reserves as an officer. They pay your tuition/books/stipend(as you start as an O-1) if that is the deal you made with them. During the Summers you go to various camps/training events to learn military medicine. When you graduate they DO give you a choice. That choice MAY not always be your first. I knew a guy who wanted to be a surgeon but ended up in internal medicine(which still turned out good for him because he eventually became a hospital administrator in the Air Force). Generally, I knew people who got their first choices, though. I have seen the choice lists they give you to fill out.

    My brother did a military deal and he got his first choices all along the way. Even into a high powered internal medicine fellowship.

    The benefit in the military residency is often more sane hours for work. The downside is that if you wanted to be a cardiologist they may make you go out into the field as a general internist for a bit before you go into cardio. But if you really wanted to get into cardio, or another subspecialty, they often work with you to get you into it.

    Now, you could end up going to a civilan hospital for a residency, too. I have seen that one. One guy I know wanted to do neurology and he ended up at some civilian hospital in Connecticut.

    If you are an MD/'DO you WILL NOT go into podiatry, as AGS suggests. They have podiatrists in the miltiary. They send podiatry cases to podiatrists. That doesn't mean you won't ever see a podiatry case and treat it. Even in the civilian world the docs want all the cases they can get...even podiatry. Ask an orthopedic surgeon who they think should do foot surgery.

     
  7. AGS

    AGS New Member

    Re:Analogies


    Don't take my metaphors literally concerning podiatry or apples and oranges ....


    Now let me ask you a question ...If you are civilian with a background as a surgeon wanting to go to the military ; wouldn't you have a higher rank as an officer ?

    The navy doesn't have to pay your medical school and you already have done your internships ...

    You have at least 13 years of experience .....

    However , you did acknowledge from one of your last sentence .

    "The downside is that if you wanted to be a cardiologist they may make you go out into the field as a general internist for a bit before you go into cardio."

    Now my cousin had to work an undesirable field for a couple of years in the service and the navy didnt give him the leverage to work another field .. They had a shortage of medical professional from a subspecialty ...So my cousin had to fill in the spot ....



    Usually the military will look at its own interest ....You come to serve the military ..not the military to serve you .........
     
  8. bing

    bing New Member

    Re: Re:Analogies

    I knew a doctor in the Air Force. He had many years experience as a civilian physician before coming into the military. He got tired of the office, tired of the insurance, tired of many things. He wanted something different. He came in and he was given the rank of Lt. Colonel...due to all of his years of experience. The military does do this. I know the Army and Air Force does. Not sure about the Navy, as I never dealt with the Navy.

    Your thoughts about the military are then only from a Navy perspective it seems. Maybe a generalization about all of the Navy is not good to make in this instance.

    With the military you always take a chance on doing what "the man" wants you to do rather than what you want to do. I never got my first choice of geographic assignment...ever. Other than that, I got everything else. The training I wanted, the jobs I wanted, etc. My brother was a military physician and got the same. So, from my experiences I can say that the Air Force does work with you. There may be examples out there that are the opposite(i have a doozey of one, too, based on a guy who worked for me one time. he went berzerk because they did not make him a cook...ahh. that's another story, though). That's about all I know.

    If you are a physician, desiring to go into the military, make them guarantee you the job you want before going in. If they won't then don't.

    Bing


     
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  9. Michael Lloyd

    Michael Lloyd New Member

    My wife worked in Navy medicine for twenty years, retiring as a CPO. I showed her this thread, and after she got done rolling her eyes at some of the comments, had this to say:

    It is true that if you are an experienced physician in a speciality that is in short supply, you can come into the military at an advanced rank. A good example is a neurosurgeon. In order to induce you to sign up, you can enter at 'field grade' status, 0-4 or above. I know personally an orthopedic surgeon who retired from civilian life at age 50, and wanting a change, entered the Army. He entered as a 0-5, Lt. Colonel.

    If you are entering the military as a young physician or before you have gone through a fellowship, then you will very likely spend some time as a GMO: general medical officer. Essentially, you are acting as a primary care provider working in the clinics and on the hospital floor. After you put your time in as a GMO, or finish your residency or fellowship, you will then likely be assigned within your medical specialty. An example here is a young internist working as a GMO while she finishes her fellowship as a gastroenterologist. Once she is done, she can pretty much count on being assigned as a gastroenterologist.

    Any military personnel soon learns a phrase similar to that used in the Navy: 'the needs of the Navy'. This means that depending on what is required, you may be assigned to do things that you do not want to do. So you may be a endocrinologist working at a shore hospital, but if they suddenly need a GMO to deploy on an aircraft carrier, you may be tapped for this. Having said that, a physician is not going to be tapped as a podiatrist, or other non-physician medical specialist.
     
  10. AGS

    AGS New Member

    Thankyou for your responses

    Thankyou for your responses... I have been educated on a subject matter from many angles on medicine in the military ....

    Changing the subject .....

    Has anyone heard about University of Miami in florida ?

    I heard this medical school is 3 years long instead of 4 years ...

    Its program is intensive ......

    I also heard the same for Stanford University .......

    Alan
     
  11. CoachTurner

    CoachTurner Member

    Medicine is not the only field that the military brings staff in at advanced grade. Nor is this limited to officer personnel.

    Musicians are inducted at higher than basic grade (regularly at pay grade E6 in the prestigous organizations).

    Experienced/highly educated ministers, engineers, dentists, veterinarians, attorneys, nurses, and other professionals are regularly commissioned at or above 0-3 (Cpt/LT).

    Highly skilled scientists are often offered reserve commissions at grades higher than typical entry level. Though I've yet to understand why some would accept.

    There is the reality of "the needs of the service" but the other reality is that the service generally needs you to perform the job for which you have been best trained.

    On a plus side -- often, the "needs of the service" will put you in a position that you'd not otherwise be qualified for yet in "the real world" -- offering oppertunity to gain experience that would otherwise be unreachable.
     
  12. Michael Lloyd

    Michael Lloyd New Member

    It has been a while, but back in my late 30's, I used to be regularly courted by the Navy reserve and Air Force reserve to enlist in the Medical Service Corps in healthcare administration/risk management. The Navy and Air Force both offered entry as an 0-4, Lt. Commander or Major, respectively, based on my experience, two graduate degrees and the like.

    I had always wondered how the heck they had found me, and I finally once asked the officer recruiter. I hold an appointment at the local medical school as a clinical instructor in risk management. From time to time, upon being invited, I would go out and give lectures or do consulting to Madigan Army Hospital, Naval Hospital Bremerton, and other military facilities if I was in the area, like Brooks in San Antonio, Walter Reed and Bethesda. It turns out that either the Chief of staff or someone in the hospital command structure of these facilities had passed my name along as a recruitment target. How interesting, I thought.
     

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