Hi! I am looking at the BEET program at Cleveland Institute of Electronics (World College) and was wondering how common it is for one to list a BEET degree in his resume as compared to the more accepted BSEET. Do you find a lot of people holding BEET degrees around or is it very weird? Thanks a million! KK
I used to work with a lot of people with BSEET's from DeVry when I was an engineer with Lam. Just be sure to never confuse a BSEET with a BSEE - they are not and never will be the same thing. (The BSEET is really an advanced technician degree). I have never heard of anyone with a BEET but I have heard some good things about Cleveland World College. What do you plan to do with the degree?
I looked at World College's BEET at one time. Since I have CIE's AASEET and some general education credits I could have finished it up pretty easily. Trouble is, though, the technical stuff is largely concentrated in the first four semesters. I really didn't see much POINT in doing the BEET since I had a B.A. and I wouldn't get much additional technical training. I don't, frankly, have much use for "management science" other than accounting. What tipped the scales away from W.C., though, is that it isn't ABET accredited. Like it or not, that matters, especially at the BSET level. You can sometimes squeeze an unaccredited BS in Engineering past licensing boards under one rubric or another but an unaccredited tech degree really carries almost no weight whatever. I was also somewhat bothered by the fact that W.C. would accept my CIE credits no matter how old they are. In electronics, that strikes me as a yellow (if not red) flag. I mean, back in 1980, these guys taught me how to locate the operating point on a pentode Class A amplifier! (That's a vacuum tube, for you younger folks) I think that most ABET schools place a seven year age limit on technical credits.
Oh, yeah, one other thing...DeVry IS ABET accredited. An ABET BSET isn't exactly an engineering degree but together with a couple of years of engineering experience it WILL qualify the holder to take the Fundamentals of Engineering exam in the VAST majority of states. After that, the degree really doesn't matter so much.
Hi Mr. Engineer! Actually, I am searching this for a friend. If you check out Cleveland Institute of Electronics's Website at http://www.cie-wc.edu/ they do offer a Bachelor in Electronics Engineering Technology program (BEET). What looks strange is that it is neither a BTech nor a BSEET ... while I have only heard of the difference between a BSEE science degree and a BSEET technology degree, what would it be for a BEET? (Somewhat less than a technology degree?) Wouldn't it look strange to have a "sugar cane" degree on one's resume?... By the way, I also have heard quite alot of good stuff about Cleveland but just find their degree name a bit strange... Have a great day! KK
I would recommend the Excelsior BSEET or the COSC BS in Eng Sci since they are both regionally accredited. These should also get you acepted into a RA masters degree program.
Thanks to all of you for the valuable input. However, while everyone seems to be talking about ABET accreditation, what about NARTE (National Association of Radio and Telecommunications Engineers http://www.narte.org/ )? I know NARTE is probably much less recognized when compared to ABET (and NARTE will not even qualify for registration as a PE, right?), but it does look like that some companies are looking for NARTE accredited technicians or technician engineers (I am *not* referring to "engineers" but just "technician engineers" or advanced technicians)... any suggestions?
NARTE and SBE and like certifications are of variable use to technicians working in their respective fields. They carry no academic or licensure recognition whatever that I know of. (I was briefly a member of SBE, for example.) The most valuable (and by FAR the most difficult to obtain) such certification comes from the American Society of Certified Engineering Technicians: www.ascet.org which is affiliated with the National Society of Professional Engineers. This certification is apparently especially valuable to engineering firms doing federal government contract work. But it still carries no academic weight that I know of.
Sorry, the actual certification program comes through NICET which is a closely affiliated board to ASCET.
NICET web site www.nicet.org NICET certifies ENGINEERING technicians not electronics or whatever techs. The difference is that NICET exams are an order of magnitude more demanding. For example, NICET requires a working knowledge of engineering math through applied calculus.
