Hello, what are the chances of getting accepted with an RA MBA into a DBA program that is AACSB accredited? Did someone experience any problems here? Thanks, Dennis
I'm sure there's a fellow who posts on this board who completed his Heriot-Watt MBA and was then accepted at the University of Florida for a Ph.D. I think his name is edowave.
Hmm... didn't know there was an issue about it. I had always thought that AACSB mattered only in the case of an applicant wanting to TEACH at an AACSB school. In any case, I don't think it's wise for AACSB doctoral programs to limit admissions to graduates of AACSB schools. For one, AACSB schools don't have a monopoly of the brightest minds among MBA graduates (although I wouldn't be surprised if they claim so, but they should know better than that). Doing so would limit their pool of outstanding US MBA graduates applying to their programs. Second, doing so would also limit their pool of outstanding foreign applicants. AACSB is an American accrediting body whose primary clientele are American schools. While there are a few foreign schools that are AACSB, foreign schools are generally not expected to have it (and I don't think the majority of them would be even interested in seeking it, especially if they alreay have the accrediting equivalent from their own country AND their continent or some other respected group from their region). The snobbery should stop at the teaching level (they should actually stop it altogether). After all, the "lowly" ABCSP seems to actually have higher standards in picking schools (they accept only regionally-accredited institutions as members). AACSB admits schools such as Pacific States University for membership, and allows their supposedly superior, accredited institutions (such as Valdosta State) to have faculty with only an NA doctorate...
I think the AACSB issues is only selectively applied by the school, if it chooses to do so. If the school wants you, they'll take you. The challenge is to get them to want you. I went from a non-AACSB BBA to an AACSB MBA to a non-AACSB DBA to full time teaching at an AACSB school. In each of these situations the AACSB issue never came up.
That is absolutely correct. There are not AACSB accredited doctorates. And if your MBA school is legitimate, and you have good grades, it shouldn't be a big problem to get into such a doctoral program. T.
When getting my bachelor's at an AACSB school I took 2 RA classes to complete the degree, as they were offered online and I could not get them in the evenings, so got special permission to do so. When I applied to one AACSB MBA, they told me I would have to retake those classes at an AACSB school (actually wrote on the pre-req evaluation "non-AACSB classes - must retake". The other AACSB MBA did not make me retake them, and there was no issue. Go figure - I agree there is no hard fast rule.
I received my BS in Accounting from an RA School, was accepted to three RA/AACSB schools for their MBA prgram, and looked into a few others. Only one school, University of Hawaii required AACSB undergrad classes (but I think they also had case by case evaluations too). The others did not have an issue with an RA undergrad degree. These schools were UMASS, Morehead State, and Colorado State University at Colorado Springs. Schools that are AACSB do not, in my opinion and my experience, do not have rules set in stone for admission and pre-req requirements (as far as an AACSB undergrad degree or RA). William
It looks like you are right: University of Florida: (PhD) http://www.cba.ufl.edu/gradprograms/phd/admissions.asp Florida International University (PhD) http://www.fiu.edu/~opie/programs.htm Admission Requirements and Procedures Harvard (DBA) http://www.hbs.edu/doctoral/admissions/index.html Florida Atlantic University (PhD) http://www.fau.edu/cibit/gsb/acadprogs/acadprogs-phd.htm
Global accreditation I've been hearing comments from many people(from professor ranks and from others), and most not on this board, regarding AACSB beginning to be an old hat. I don't know whether this is true. They have been talking something about a global accreditation that will trump AACSB. Anyone else heard of this? What is this global authority that might trump AACSB? Darned globalists.
Re: Global accreditation I hope it's true, it's a good idea. The University of London-Imperial College's Tanaka School of Business is one of the top MBA programs in the world. The most common comparison I've heard is to MIT here in the U.S. It's really that good of a school. They also happen to have a DL MBA program. It's shockingly affordable for what you get (less than $20K USD), and I very seriously considered it. Why didn't I go there? No AACSB accreditation. They have Royal Charter accreditation, which is the gold standard over there (only a handful of Brit schools have bothered to seek AACSB's blessing, as it's not a very well-known standard in Europe). Since I am seeking an MBA primarily to open academic doors, I just couldn't ignore the accreditation standards required in my country, even though the London program is ranked higher than UMass worldwide. It's all kind of silly, had I gotten an MBA DL from the Univ of London-Imperial, one of the top-ranked business schools in the world (ranked worldwide right behind Georgetown and just ahead of UT-Austin), my application for an academic position would've been dumped in the circular file of any school demanding an AACSB-accredited graduate degree--right along with the degrees from St. Regis! Bring on the worldwide accreditastion standards. The current system is silly and leads to absurd results.
Re: Global accreditation I would not be surprised. I personally believe many of the schools currently going AACSB are doing it for marketing reasons, trying to reverse declining enrollment. Doesn't look to be working since the for-profits are booming! Check my message about Kaplan for example. Any specifics on what you heard? Just my opinion
Yes it is possible at SOME Colleges My experience at University of New Orleans was that they will accept you for their Master or PhD from a non AACSB school but you will need to take a bunch of pre-requisite courses (7 for the MBA) before starting with the core courses of the program. Besides that they will not hire faculty for the business school that don't have an AACSB degree. In contrast Universidad del Turabo (the only AACSB accredited University in Puerto Rico and the Caribbean, will let you enroll in their D.B.A. program without an MBA from an AACSB school (only residential program, no online option). There are other AACSB universities that will accept non AACSB candidates out there, just keep searching.
