U. of Wyoming 3 Year Degrees OK

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  1. JoAnnP38

    JoAnnP38 Member

    Someone brought up the University of Wyoming's MBA program in another thread. While looking this program over I noticed the following in the business department's FAQ:

    We do accept most 3-year bachelor degrees to be eligible for graduate admission.

    Is this common? I've never noticed any other University that I have looked at to accept 3-year bachelors degrees.
     
  2. bing

    bing New Member

    Many of the Indians who work in my area tell me that their bachelor's degrees were 3 years in length. Maybe the Cowboys are going after this crowd?
     
  3. bing

    bing New Member

    Here are some interesting resources on this...

    http://www.essaycom.com/india/3yeardegree.htm

    http://in.rediff.com/getahead/2005/mar/09iycu.htm


     
  4. Rivers

    Rivers New Member

    In the UK it is common to have a undergraduate degree after three years.
     
  5. skidadl

    skidadl Member

    If it means anything at all to you, I thought it was funny.
     
  6. JamesK

    JamesK New Member

    Re: Re: U. of Wyoming 3 Year Degrees OK

    Any country which follows the English or Scottish higher education model should award degrees with length three years. In Australia both three year and four year degrees are awarded (those with duration of at least four year are honours degrees or sometimes degrees with honours). The three year degrees are not sufficient for entry to reseach masters and doctorates (although may be if combined with relevant experience) but are acceptable for some coursework masters and graduate certificates and diplomas.
     
  7. Ted Heiks

    Ted Heiks Moderator and Distinguished Senior Member

    Re: Re: Re: U. of Wyoming 3 Year Degrees OK

    Ditto for Canada.
     
  8. dl_mba

    dl_mba Member

    Most of the Indians have 3 yr degrees.
    But their engineering degrees are 4 yr in length.

    MOST OF THE INDIAN RESUMES ARE FAKE.
     
  9. B.N.

    B.N. Member

    Most of the Indian resumes are fake ..... thats quite an insinuation.
    I would venture to say that MOST Indian as well as American, European etc. resumes contain exaggerations and SOME might contain blatant lies.

    Saying that MOST Indian resumes are FAKE is somewhat racist, at least I think so.

    I'm an American living in Europe and I know I don't appreciate it when I hear comments like "Most Americans are fat", "Most Americans are rude", "Most Americans don't even know that there is something outside of America", "Most Americans have no culture", "Most Americans have no manners" ..... etc
    Sure, sometimes their comments sadly have a ring of truth, but that doesn't mean you can classify or generalize a whole country.

    Brandon
     
  10. bing

    bing New Member

    Having seen this first hand I can attest to that. I don't know about MOST but I know of five incidents with TCS contractors in the past 18 months just in my company alone. One purchased degress from a service that provided transcripts and phone service. He was buying an MBA next, he said. He ended up ditching his Indian contractor company and got a job with IBM.

    He called me up one Monday and asked me to send him an SOP on an application. I said I would call him back in a few. He told me not to call back at the office. I asked why and he told me that he had left our company and taken a job with IBM. I called over to the place he worked at here and told them. Turns out that he called in sick the previous Wednesday. He had been working for IBM since last Thursday and this department did not have a clue...nor did his company.

    TCS then put the pressure on his family back in India to get him to come in. they threatened his family and then his family finally had to make an official statement saying something like "we don't have anything to do with our son anymore. he is a wayward young man and we have no more contact with him." They really did not ditch their son. They just had to make the official statement so as to not be bothered again.


     
  11. clarky

    clarky New Member

    Besides the Indian, Australian, Canadian and British three-year degrees there is also the issue of the new European ‘Bologna’ degree. Universities and credential evaluation companies are now grappling with the prospect of a future generation of Europeans with three-year degrees looking to get into US master’s programs. While Europeans make up a relatively small proportion of the overseas student body in the US, it is still an issue of great concern for international admissions professionals and credential evaluators alike.

    The decision made on the evaluation of the Bologna degree also has implications for the Indian three-year degree which is typically evaluated as not being equivalent to a US bachelor’s degree, with a few exceptions, rather as being equivalent to three years of postsecondary education. If the overwhelming trend in the US towards the three-year European degree is that it is equivalent to a US bachelor’s and adequate for admission to a master’s program, then I am sure there are going to be plenty of unhappy Indians who are being required to either redo their bachelor’s in the US or complete the necessary undergraduate programs as dictated by American graduate admissions advisors.

    As a result, a number of prominent international education professionals and credential evaluations outfits are assessing their European equivalencies and reassessing how they will evaluate the Indian three-year degree. One proposal that seems to be gaining some traction is the evaluation of Indian degrees on the basis of the school from which it is earned. If that school has been through the NAAC accreditation process and has been awarded a grade ‘B’ or better, then those earning degrees from such institutions will have their three-year degree evaluated as equal to a US four-year degree (and vice versa).
     
  12. lchemist

    lchemist New Member

    I think in the UK, the elementary and secondary education lasts 13 years instead of 12 as in the American system.

    The student is supposed to acquire his or her general education during those years, and the level of the A subjects taken in the 13th year is much higher than the regular American High School, perhaps equivalent to AP level.

    Once you chose your major, that is what you study, so the depth of knowledge of a first class honours 3 years BA in the UK is probably higher than the one obtained in the regular 4 years BA in the US.
     
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  13. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    From what I've learned while posting here and dealing with the University of London, I've about concluded that you can't even COMPARE a UK B.A. with an American B.A. The sole similarity is in the degree title.

    The purpose, level, structure, and utility of the two degrees are completely different.
     
  14. dl_mba

    dl_mba Member

    TCS, Infosys, Wipro and many other Indian companies harass their employees. Employees leave them the first chance they get. most of them are brought here on L1 Visa and work at the client places and its illegal. I know a team of s/w guys working in our company and 5 of them live in a one bed apartment with no furniture of any sort (not paid well). L1 visa employess are not supposed be "body shopped".
    In a way they all are polished sweat shops.


     
  15. JamesK

    JamesK New Member

    Actually, UCAS considers AP subjects to only be equivalent to AS level. In addition, a normal high school diploma from the US is only considered to be at GCSE level.
     
  16. rajyc

    rajyc New Member

    dl_mba a looser.

    Atleast we are not buying degrees from KW or St.Regis like you do here.

    Not most of the Indians have 3yr degrees they have 4yr degrees. I agree few of them have 3yr degrees and working here in US.
     
  17. dl_mba

    dl_mba Member

    We have a lot of Indians working in our company. They talk some language called telgu even in the meetings. Most of them have never worked in India and have joined here with fake resumes. Most of the girls used to be housewives before joining and have no clue what they are doing. i have also heard that its a matter of prestige to come over here.

    I can even disclose the name of the company and every one of those Indian fake's names here.

    FYI i am a MBA student at one of the top 20 schools here and my GMAT score is 690.

    Go have some curry.


     
  18. spmoran

    spmoran Member

    We've had some TCS folks where I am working. I have picked up some of the projects of those who are no longer here. I can attest to the resumes being either inflated or outright falsified based on the quality of the work I am left with. When I was working at the State of Washington, one of the managers of an Indian firm explained to me how these firms have the potential contract employees write their resume from scratch based on the requirements of the contract they were bidding on. It is quite common.
     
  19. lchemist

    lchemist New Member

    Could you explain the differences in more detail?

    What is the purpose of a British degree?

    Is their level much hiigher?

    Thank you.
     
  20. Dave Wagner

    Dave Wagner Active Member

    Bingo. It seems that UK bachelor degrees are missing the first year (remedial English, Mathematics, Science, History, etc.) of the US bachelor degrees and not the fourth year as some folks assume.

    Dave
     

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