On a different thread, someone posted they thought NCU was more difficult (more work per class) than Touro. Has anyone had the same experience. P.S. I am now a full member of Degreeinfo at 30 posts!
First, congrats with over 30 posts!!!! As far as which one is more difficult...I would say not one is more difficult than another...just different. I feel I learn more at NCU and I wrote more BS at TUI. The writing at NCU seems more relavate to what I am learning.
Congrats on the 30 posts! As which is more difficult ... I think an important factor to weigh is HOW each student learns best. Some like books, some enjoy searching through the resources such as ProQuest for the latest information on a specific topic. Both can be very effective methods of learning. And it varies ... for each of us to have options to choose, to best match-up to how each of us learn ... is to use the TV commerical ... "priceless" be it NCU or TUI. When I was a GA for TUI ... it was interesting to observe how each student approached their CD assignments and related coursework/etc. Some did the writing, checked off all the marks, and I never really had contact with them. Others, they would ask additional questions or for clarification via email ... and there was some who I sensed just didn't learn well without some form of a live real person interacting with them. For those I found the value of talking with them, "going live" as I would term it, over the telphone... was very important for them to be able to complete the course requirements. Then they "got it"! B-) So please consider your own learning style too and select whatever program 'fits' you best. BTW, the CDs also contain video presentations from the course profs ... and many of the texts are also included, which to me, was just like having a textbook ... so the CD is not just a list of the required assignments to complete. Another change I noticed, that I believe is a positive and welcome change, is that TUI seems to be constructing the PhD coursework in a similar fashion as the structure that has been mentioned about NCU ... as in more focus on the topic and format of what will be expected for the actual dissertation. I noticed that by how the focus was changing as I completed my last courses. Again, depending on how one learn's best ... that could be a real plus, or if one prefers to be of a more independent nature, that's the reality of much of the actual individual research that will be needed to finish. At the PhD level, for the dissertation ... there is a point where one seems to spend more time with searching for various journal articles, perhaps more than the use of textbooks, so I feel very comfortable having used the web as a primary key research tool over that of only selected textbooks. That's how I learn best ... and as I observed during my tenure as a GA, having the options to choose today, makes a world of difference. Please feel free to PM if I can be of more help. Billy TUI Learner
You are absolutely right!!!! Everyone has their own style that works for them. I prefer books. The CD's worked well because it was all right there and there were links to other schools websites with up to date information. Don't misunderstand...I did learn at TUI, but it did not seem as focused as I wanted it to be. I guess I could have asked what text book(s) would complement the class but I never did. Maybe the old curriculum is not what I wanted. I know looking at the new curriculum for the MS-ITM, I think “I wish I was in the program now. It seems more focused and structured.” As I am writing this I just had an epiphany. It may not have been the lack of books…it was, what I perceive as, the lack of focus. The NCU program allows you to select electives that create a sense of continuity. My TUI classes were - ITM505, MKT501, ITM504, MGT501 , ETH501, ITM503 , ECM501 , ECM502 , and BUS508. The new courses are more IT focused. Thank you Billy...by the way I still like books
great feedback How true it is to find the program that fits you. Of course, when paying for this thing myself, each shot costs $1500- $2000 per class. Great comments!
What's with the "TUI vs. NCU" comparison being raised regularly. As if it is an orchestrated campaign. I lost count of the threads addressing this specific comparison. Makes me wonder! Eli
don't wonder or worry Eli Don't wonder or worry, Eli. They are the only 100% online RA Doctorates in education right now, that is why there is so much comparision. Personally, I have been accepted to both and $30,000 is a lot of money. I'm trying to get feedback, that's all.
Re: don't wonder or worry Eli 30K? Is this the cost of tuition you are looking at? If so, you must not have an MBA or the appropriate coursework to jump straight into their doctorate coursework. You might try finding a lower cost tuition at another school to take the "prep" courses. NCU has some sort of deal with CSU. I am sure CSU's tuition is cheaper than NCU. Just a thought.
Yes, $30,000 Here is the breakdown: NCU - 51 units @ 475 = $24,225, dissertation fee $1,600, books $1,500, total = $27,325 TUI - 48 units @ 500 = $24,000, dissertation continutation (4 semesters at $1,500) $3,000, total $27,000 These are the minimum units for each degree that must be taken at each university. well, that's about $30,000!
Re: Yes, $30,000 Just a clarification on TUI costs... The coursework through comps is 44 units beyond an MBA or a Masters with 16 units of leveling. It seems to me that most of the Ph.D students I know are taking about a year (16 units) to propose and a year (16 units) or more to complete the dissertation, so the costs would be: 44 x $500 = $22,000 (Coursework through comps) 16 x $500 = $8,000 (Leveling if needed) 16 x $375 = $6,000 (Dissertation Proposal) 16 x $375 = $6,000 (Dissertation) = $3,000 (Laptop, software and data collection expense) ---------- $49,000 without an MBA The dissertation process at TUI seems to be a more lengthy and possibly more difficult process than at NCU, in my opinion. Best wishes, Dave
