Australian "Prestige" Guides

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  1. Lewchuk

    Lewchuk member

    Prestige
    *****

    ADELAIDE

    ANU

    MELBOURNE

    MONASH

    QUEENSLAND

    SYDNEY

    UNSW

    UWA

    ****

    FLINDERS

    GRIFFITH

    MACQUARIE

    TASMANIA

    WOLLONGONG

    ***

    BOND

    CURTIN

    JCU

    LA TROBE

    MURDOCH

    NEWCASTLE

    QUT

    RMIT

    UNE

    UTS

    **

    CANBERRA

    CQU

    DEAKIN

    NOTRE DAME

    SWINBURNE

    USA

    USQ

    UWS

    *

    ACU

    AVONDALE

    BALLARAT

    CSU

    ECU

    NTU

    SOUTHERN CROSS

    SUNSHINE COAST

    VUT
     
  2. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Ken,

    Where does Greenwich University, based in the sovereign nation of Norfolk Island, fit into this schematic?

    Russell
     
  3. drwetsch

    drwetsch New Member

    Lewchuk,

    Are these guides published online? WHat is the source? Thanks.


    John
     
  4. BillDayson

    BillDayson New Member

    It's interesting that this listing, which seems to divide Australian universites into bands with the schools listed alphabetically within the bands, is basically a listing of universities by AGE, from oldest to youngest.

    There are the 19th century foundations, plus ANU. Until well into this century there was basically one university per Australian state, with perhaps a second like UNSW in the larger capitals.

    Then there were a group of roughly 1950's-1960's additions.

    Then a new group started appearing in the late 80's and 90's, up to the present. Former colleges of advanced education or whatever they were called, upgraded to university status. Charles Sturt, So. Queensland and the like.

    My feeling is that a lot of this is just a matter of name recognition. The newer and smaller places aren't as well known as the larger and older places. Just as in the United States, when asked to name "good" universities, people well say "I don't know... I guess..." and then produce a list of the 'usual suspects', the schools with high profiles.

    It would be entirely different if you asked subject specialists about good programs in their research specialty.

    But if you asked a LOT of subject specialists about a lot of different specialties, then statistically averaged the results, you would probably start to approximate the age/name-recognition list. That's because the older/larger schools offer a wider array of academic programs, being older and larger. So there is a greater chance of finding a productive doctoral level program in your specialty (whatever that is) at one of them.

    Which is a VERY different thing than saying that research done at a newer/smaller school is necessarily of a lower standard because of the name of the school it occurred at.
     
  5. Lewchuk

    Lewchuk member

    It doesn't... kinda tells you something doesn
    't it.

     
  6. Lewchuk

    Lewchuk member

    Goode University Guide, access $11 per month... I am not costing them any money since this info is in the "public" section.

     
  7. BillDayson

    BillDayson New Member

    Greenwich is obviously off the scale. The question is whether it is off the scale at the low end or the high end.
     

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