What is a decent GMAT or GRE score these days?

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  1. Marylars

    Marylars New Member

    Greetings, all...

    I know that the answer to this question will depend a great deal on the type of program that I am planning to pursue, but I am getting ready to take my GMAT and GRE tests. Make that, getting ready to take the GRE...AGAIN. I took the GRE 30 years ago and, did well enough to be accepted to several master's programs, but schools are not interested in 30 year old GRE scores.

    Anyway, I'm looking for some sort of clue as to what is typically acceptable these days.

    A little more information. I have a 27 year old master's degree in audiology -- ended up getting a 3.4 GPA overall. I am currently enrolled in an Amberton MBA program and will probably end up with a 3.7 - 3.8 GPA when all is said and done. I am looking to do either a PhD in Leadership Studies or a DBA or DPA, so I suspect that the verbal score will be more important to them than the quantitative. (I sure hope so, anyway, because in the GRE prep book that I have there is a lot of math that I've not seen since the late 70's.) I am not looking for an Ivy League school -- probably a state school with a relatively well respected program. Some require the GRE; some require the GMAT.

    Any help that any of you can give me would be much appreciated. Thanks!

    Mary
     
  2. edowave

    edowave Active Member

    Anything over 1100 on the GRE should get you into most state schools. If you are looking for a fellowship or assistantship, you would need at least a 1200.
     
  3. Ted Heiks

    Ted Heiks Moderator and Distinguished Senior Member

    If you're looking to do that leadership doc via DL, try:

    Andrews University www.andrews.edu/academic/dlc (BG15, 153)
    Antioch University www.antioch.edu (BG15, 155)
    Capella University www.capellauniversityuniversity.edu (BG15, 156)
    University of Phoenix http://online.uophx.edu (BG15, 143)
    University of South Africa www.unisa.ac.za (BG15, 144)
     
  4. Marylars

    Marylars New Member

    Thanks to both of you! If I were going into an engineering program, I know I'd need to worry more about that part of things, but I suspect that the type of program I am interested in will be looking closely at the verbal. I know I will do fine on the verbal, it's just that I'm kind of worried about the quantitative piece. So..if a person were to get, say...650+ V and 450- Q , do you think a school would look at that negatively since the Q scores were so low?

    Thanks, Ted, for the info on the programs. I had started to look into most of them and had begun to apply to the Andrews program, but they only have a summer start date and with the job that I have I can take no time off in the summer.

    Does anyone have any info on the DSL from Regent? I'm a little leery to consider that program as I fear that the right-wing focus may be detrimental to a public sector career. Thoughts?

    Thanks in advance...as always!

    Mary
     
  5. Rob L

    Rob L New Member

    I don't about the GRE. But, from personal experience, I can tell you that you about the GMAT. The GMAT is on an 200-800 point scale. Most colleges I looked at required a score of at least 400 in order to be admitted. But, I know a lot of colleges use an admissions formula that combines your GMAT and your undergraduate GPA. For example, for its MBA admissions, RIchard Stockton College of New Jersey uses a formula that looks like this:


    (200 X undergraduate GPA) + GMAT score= points

    For example, if a prospective student had a 3.0 undergraduate GPA and a GMAt score of 550, the total number of points would be:

    (200 X 3.0 undergrad GPA= 600 points) +550 GMAT score= 1150 points.

    If the college requires 1000 points for admission, the student above is admitted because he has 1150 points.


    Of course, a GMAT score is relative to the school and program. In your case, I think you might be safe with a GMAT of 550. But, take my estimation with a grain of salt because I have never been in a doctorate program. Hopefully, some of the esteemed PHD's and other doctorate degree holders can give you more specific advice.
     
  6. Ted Heiks

    Ted Heiks Moderator and Distinguished Senior Member

    The Doctor of Strategic Leadership integrates Business Leadership, Educational Leadership, Political Leadership, and Religious Leadership. Naturally, you may choose a major concentration from one amongst these, but I think you'll also need to do some minor field work in the others, too.

    www.regent.edu/acad/sls/academics/online.htm

    Oh! And don't forget Regent's PhD in Organizational Leadership!
     
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  7. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    I had just the opposite problem... got perfect 800 on Q and measley 440 V. That's pretty much what you'd expect of a math major from Ukraine applying to CS programs ;)
    Some programs have minimum scores, and they are often Q+V (AFAIK Florida State has a GRE minimum of 1000 across the university). Beyond that, I bet many departments will look on the complete application: CV, essay, letters of recommendation etc. Unless the program is in the sciences or highly competitive.
     
  8. Marylars

    Marylars New Member

    Thanks, again...

    I had considered the Regent program, as I like its multi-faceted approach and the emphasis on ethics. However, I am not sure that it would serve me well in the politically correct, left-leaning part of the public sector in which I work (public education).

    To illustrate my point... I interviewed some Liberty grads at a job fair at the University of Virginia this past spring. Upon returning from the recruiting trip, I mentioned to my colleagues that the candidates were strong (which they were) and that maybe we ought to consider recruiting from Liberty in the future. The response was, "Well, sure...if you want a lot of holy roller, right wing, Bible thumpers teaching our kids."

    I plan to stay in this field for the next 15 years, so I need to make sure that the degree program I choose will be viewed positively as I move forward in my career. That's my only concern about Liberty or Regent.

    On the other hand...once I retire I plan to consult on a more full-time basis and to do some teaching at a small college or university. Maybe a Regent doctorate would serve me well at a little Christian school.

    (sigh) Decisions...decisions!

    Thanks, too, for the formula tips. I think most programs work that way and I am hoping that a relatively strong GPA will compensate for the test scores. Besides, I would like to think that being in my mid-40's, with both recent and past graduate school experience, and already having an established track record of success in the 'real world' that maybe test scores will be just a piece of the admission puzzle. Of course, that assumes that some of these admission folks have ever set foot in the real world...which might be a bit of a stretch.
     
  9. JoAnnP38

    JoAnnP38 Member

    FWIW FSU's CS program it requires an 1100 (other programs vary as well.)

    GRE Scores:The minimum GRE score required for admission to the Department of Computer Science is 1100 (Verbal and Quantitative combined) with a minimum of 650 on the Quantitative.

    http://www.cs.fsu.edu/academics/grad/admissions.html
     
  10. Andy Borchers

    Andy Borchers New Member

    Mary - Nova Southeastern is looking for at least a 500 for their DBA program. The for-profits typically don't bother with the GMATs. High quality state programs typically expect scores in the high 600's. Even average or weak state schools are probably going to expect socres in the upper 500's.

    Regards - Andy

     
  11. tsling

    tsling New Member

    Most PhD in Business requires a GMAT score above 600. I know the average GMAT score of students admitted into the PhD in International Business at the University of Texas at El Paso is above 600.
     
  12. Marylars

    Marylars New Member

    Thanks, guys...

    This is exactly the kind of information I was seeking.

    Mary
     
  13. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    Right; but there is a minimum of 1000 set by I beleive the College of Arts and Sciences for all departments.

    I strongly suspect that CS department will consider outstanding candidate with a 1000. Didn't need this myself though ;)
     

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