Grand Canyon Universtiy

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  1. Rivers

    Rivers New Member

    I know someone started a thread about GCU a while back but with the server problems searching has done nothing to help. I have gotten som positive responses from GCU about their MBA program. I was wondering if it is worthwhile or if there is a better road to choose?
     
  2. Ted Heiks

    Ted Heiks Moderator and Distinguished Senior Member

    http://forums.degreeinfo.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=18994
     
  3. Ted Heiks

    Ted Heiks Moderator and Distinguished Senior Member

    Let's see here. Grand Canyon University (www.grand-canyon.edu) offers an online MBA which is accredited by the North Central Association and by the Association of Collegiate Business Schools & Programs. The GPA required for admission is 2.8 (though you could be admitted probationarily with less). Tuition is $360/hr. The degree takes 39-51 hrs., to-wit, 12 hrs. fundamentals courses (for non-business undergraduates), plus (for all) 30 hrs. core courses and 9 hrs. emphasis courses. Cost of the program: $360/hr. x 39-51 hrs. = $14,040-$18,360.

    The fundamental courses are:

    ACC 501: Accounting Principles
    FIN 501: Finance Principles
    MKT 501: Economics & Marketing Principles
    SYM 501: Applied Business Probability & Statistics

    The core courses are:

    BUS 601: Quantitative Methods
    BUS 602: Managerial Communication
    MGT 602: Organizational Theory & Behavior
    SYM 603: Information Systems
    BUS 604: Business Ethics
    ACC 605: Managerial Accounting
    MKT 606: Marketing Management
    ECN 607: Managerial Economics
    FIN 608: Managerial Finance
    MGT 609: Strategic Management

    The emphases available are Accounting, Finance, Health Systems Management, Leadership, and Marketing.
     
  4. Rivers

    Rivers New Member

    Thnak you Ted, the search feature didn't help me in the least bit! When I look at the numbers they seem a little pricey(compared to University of NOrth Alabama and CSU-DH), then again as I been searching the site I also see that they are a for profit school,with very little name recognition.
     
  5. Ted Heiks

    Ted Heiks Moderator and Distinguished Senior Member

    I might be able to help you find something that suits your needs if you could give details of what you're looking for, such as major, price range, and preferred accreditation agency.
     
  6. beachhoppr

    beachhoppr New Member

    Hey.
    I am the one who started that GCU thread awhile back. I am in my 3rd course in GCU's DL MBA program.

    My experience has been very worthwhile thus far. The education has been excellent as have the instructors. I did have a beef with the administration but I attribute that, now, to kinks in the retooling of the university. They are going thru growing pains as I suppose that requires patience on our part.

    The cost is $360 per credit for the MBA. If you are military, the cost is $250 per credit.

    As far a name recognition, I don't disagree with you...not a lot of people know about the college at this point...but...they are regionally accredited and the MBA program is ACBSP accredited so it is definately NOT a 2nd rate degree. They are for profit but I have not seen where that has made any difference to my experience at Florida State, for example.

    I would recommend GCU at this point. Feel free to email me with questions

    [email protected]
     
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  7. Ted Heiks

    Ted Heiks Moderator and Distinguished Senior Member

    Okay, Rivers!

    You are looking for a DL MBA under $15,000 with ACBSP or AACSB accreditation and lax GMAT requirements. Of that .doc list of 288 DL MBA programs that I am compiling (and which I will eventually post), I've so far only gotten complete information on 33 (11.46%) of them. Eighteen (54.54% of the population with complete information) are priced at under $15,000. Here's the list of five schools meeting all three requirements.


    California State University, Dominguez Hills $300 x 30 = $9,000. ACBSP. 450 on GMAT.

    University of Northern Alabama $300 x 33 = $9,900. ACBSP. 550 on GMAT.

    Florida Institute of Technology $415 x 33-36 = $13,695-$14,940.
    ACBSP. GMAT may be waived.

    Grand Canyon University $360 x 39-51 = $14,040-$18,360. ACBSP. GMAT required for online students.

    National University $250 x 58.5 = $14,625. International Assembly of Collegiate Business Education. GMAT waived if GPA > 2.5.

    NB: As I still have another 255 schools to go on my .doc list, stay tuned and they'll eventually get posted.
     
  8. Ted Heiks

    Ted Heiks Moderator and Distinguished Senior Member

    Western Kentucky University $360 x 30 = $10,800. AACSB. 500 GMAT.
     
  9. -kevin-

    -kevin- Resident Redneck

    Ted,

    not to dissuade you but have you visited www.geteducated.com and taken a look at the information already collected? Normally, that list is pretty good?

    Kevin
     
  10. blaketots

    blaketots New Member

    Texas A & M University Commerce

    $430.33 X 30 = $12,910 Out-of-State
    $172.33 X 30 = $5,170 Texas Residents

    AACSB-accredited

    GMAT - waived for undergraduate GPA of 2.75 or higher
     
  11. Rivers

    Rivers New Member

    Thank You Ted!
    very interesting information.

    Just to add I know Morehead State University also offers a MBA GMAT required 400 at $411/credit hour. One thing I must say about Morehead is I have a hard time with the name of the school seems like it should be the punchline in a joke.:D End result I'm not sure I'll get any more traction out of a Morehead degree then a GCU.

    Carla ,As far as TAMU Commerce is concerned I was under the impression that the fee was $478 per credit Hour. I was seriously considering TAMU-commerce(they were my first choice and I have most of my application in for them) until I realized they abit over my budget $478 * 36= $17,208. One thing for sure I need not worry about name recognition with a TAMU-Commerce degree.
     
  12. beachhoppr

    beachhoppr New Member

    This is incorrect. There is NO GMAT requirement.

    $360 is the tuition rate unless you have a DD-214. In this case, tuition is $250 and books are free for the first semester.
     
  13. bing

    bing New Member

    For Profit Schools

    Seems these days all schools are FOR PROFIT. Just received an e-mail from CSUDH regarding an expansion to their Home Depot center. This is supposed to be bring in additional revenue for the school.

    Purdue University is a mega money maker now. They'd rather be recruiting out of state and foreign students rather than in-state because that generates greater revenues. Purdue and Indiana U. are all building gigantic money making centers around the state. Pretty sure I just read that Purdue's latest Prez is the biggest money solicitor of all-time(their goal is to bring in 1.3 billion dollars).

    Indiana U. went to court with the Indiana Dept of Revenue due to making such a killing in the bookstores. The Dept of Revenue obviously thinks that IU is a moneymaker and owes taxes.

    Some schools, like Phoenix and Colorado Tech just don't mind calling themselves FOR PROFITS, though.


     
  14. beachhoppr

    beachhoppr New Member

    Yeah but the degree from Indiana or Purdue would warrant much more respect that a comparably costing Phoenix or CTU degree. So I don't think its exactly apples to apples.
     
  15. Rivers

    Rivers New Member

    It does apply if you look at it this way, the difference between alot of "non-profit" schools and for profit schools is the for profit school admits it is trying to make money on the venture. Some non-profits(e.g. Harvard University) have enormous endowments and yet keep non-profit status. Of course a degree from Harvard warrants respect but we aren't talking about the quality of education as much as how the administrattion is running the school.
     
  16. nycrican2

    nycrican2 New Member

    Wow, Kevin, great link. Thanks for the tip.
     
  17. Maniac Craniac

    Maniac Craniac Moderator Staff Member

    Hi. Did you already check out the sticky?

    I have one suggestion that might work for you. I'm sure Ted has about 900 more, however, you probably won't find a much better overall deal than UMass Online MBAs. There are two you can choose from, Lowell or Amherst. Amherst has the more prestigious name, but is about 6K more.

    UMass Lowell MBA

    UMass Amherst MBA

    They are both AACSB accredited. The only better deals I have seen around are public schools with in-state tuition. UMass is the same whether in or out of state, so might be worth looking into if you have nothing local to you.

    A note on GCU, they have a dual MBA/MSL program. It works out to 24 credits more than just an MBA (that is to say, a LOT of credits overall), but something to think about. I think dual degree programs are cool (none cooler than the 4 year BA + MD offered at UCONN Med School for exceptional students :eek:).
     
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  18. heimer

    heimer New Member

    Ted, i'm going to encourage you with this one. While geteducated.com is a great resource, their data is incomplete and in need of an update. Plus, they only look at one dimension (price). Keep it up, Ted!
     
  19. Tim D

    Tim D Member

    This thread is almost 5 years old!!!! (in otherwords the MBA sticky was not there). It does make you wonder why someone bumped this artifact.

    I agree Dual degree programs are cool. That said there are many AACSB schools other than UMass and most of them cheaper than UMass. When I checked in to UMass in fact(while I was a resident of Massachusetts) it was still cheaper for me to spend the out of state Tuition for Morehead State University in Kentucky. University of Wyoming is another one( that I didn't find until I was far into my MBA) that was also cheaper than UMass. I say look at all options, Even though I may be going to an AACSB school, I am not convinced that AACSB accredited is any better than an ACBSP or many others for that matter. Some may be a better value, there seems to be no real good data to say one way or the other.
     

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