University of Northern Virginia

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  1. Timothy Lai

    Timothy Lai New Member

    Dear all,

    I would be grateful if somebody could advise me about the University of Northern Virginia. It seems to be an on-line university with real accreditation.

    http://www.unva.edu/

    Thank you.

    Best Regards
    Timothy Lai
     
  2. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Nationally accredited (ACICS), which means its degrees will have widespread utility in the workplace and very limited utility in academia (either for employment or as a student pursuing a higher degree).

    This school is operated with an emphasis on foreign students. There seems to be some availability of DL courses, but it is a classroom-based school.

    Offers bachelor's and master's programs in business, IT, and education. Lists a tuition rate for doctoral programs, but doesn't list them as available. (I seem to recall that they did once offer doctorates. Perhaps before their ACICS accreditation.)

    This school has the same model as Virginia International University, but (I suspect) is better-funded. VIU is pursuing ACICS accreditation as well.

    NB: I used to teach for VIU as an adjunct when I was with AT&T. I'm in neither place anymore.
     
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  3. Timothy Lai

    Timothy Lai New Member

    Many thanks Rich,

    Your information is detailed more then enough! The main point is, as we are always concerned, not a diploma mill or just so-called state lisensed without proper accreditation. I believe there is no big difference between National or Regional accreditation for the people pursuing distance learning degree programs from Hong Kong. Apparently, if the people do not have a comprehensive understanding on the US higher learning system, they may think that National will certainly be better than Regional.

    Anyway, why I would like to know about the UNV is that one of my friend runs a professional association in Hong Kong and China and wishes to cooperate with an REAL overseas unversity to provide undergraduate and graduate studies to its members. Once his proposal was announced, several universities have approached including the UNV, the "European University of Ireland" and the others. As I have learnt something about the EUI, I immediately told him to cease any contact with it to avoid any ruin or damage of reputation from getting along with it. As a result, I am doing some studies on what he wants and post a thread here to ask you guys.

    Once again thank you very much indeed Rich and I will let my friend know that he should have confidence to cooperate with the UNV.

    Bye,
    Tim
     
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  4. PAULWENLIUESQ

    PAULWENLIUESQ Member

    UNVA's DBA/DIT programs has just been approved by the ACICS.
     
  5. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Mr. Liu:

    Is there some reference we can see for this? What is the source for your information. If accurate, it could be very significant.

    Thank you.
     
  6. BillDayson

    BillDayson New Member

    I didn't see doctoral programs listed among UNVA's graduate programs:

    http://www.unva.edu/graduates.htm

    (UNVA's 'news' and 'announcements' pages weren't working.)

    ACICS doesn't accredit doctoral programs does it? My impression is that it's trying to break into doctorates much as DETC (and several other accreditors like ACAOM) are.

    Could this be a 'pilot program' like DETC is hoping to roll out? Or is it a remote site in a foreign country offering something that isn't included in the parent institution's accreditation? (Apparently ACICS has had some trouble with that.)
     
  7. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    The only reference on their site to doctoral programs I found was a tuition charge of $350 per credit for doctoral studies. Odd.
     
  8. PAULWENLIUESQ

    PAULWENLIUESQ Member

    UNVA along with other two ACICS schools were selected for this "Pilot Program".There will be a formal announcement from the ACICS soon. 60 units for both the DBA/DIT programs and there are NOT on-line/distance learning mode.
     
  9. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Yeah, 60 credits at $350 per. That's $20K or more (considering books and other expenses).

    I'll give them a call tomorrow and report what I hear.
     
  10. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

  11. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Talk about abuse of power -- the feds didn't find what they were looking for in their raid, so they released irrelevant personal information to embarrass one of the school's principals.
     
  12. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

    It's not clear what the Feds found or didn't find. They seized records, computers, etc. which will be examined according to established protocols, I'm sure. You rush to judgement on that point. Also, I see nothing indicating that the Feds released information regarding Lee's sex life. Apparently it was all publicly available on the interwebs. Axe to grind?
     
  13. dlcurious

    dlcurious Member

    I didn't see anything that indicated the feds released this. Maybe it was a personal acquaintance who had an axe to grind. Or maybe he had used an email address in the ad that had been previously used elsewhere before and some but 2-and-2 together. Who knows... it's funny as hell though.
     
  14. Cyber

    Cyber New Member

    Lee resigned, but I'm wondering what has happen to the school's reputation since.
     
  15. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator

    It seems like they lost their accreditation. No mention of them on the ACICS website, and;

    University of Northern Virginia
     
  16. AV8R

    AV8R Active Member

    I've spent just over 30 years of my life living in Virginia and have never heard of this school.
     
  17. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    I don't believe UNVA ever had ACICS. Perhaps you're thinking of Virginia International University, which is just down the road, has been ACICS accredited for some time now, and has similar student demographics?
     
  18. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator

    Perhaps....I thought Rich Douglas said at the beginning of the thread that NVU was ACICS.
     
  19. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    So he did. That was six years ago that he said that, and that was before I knew about them, so maybe that's the case. If they did, though, they'd have lost ACICS a while ago.
     
  20. CalDog

    CalDog New Member

    That post was in 2005. According to the USDoE database of accredited institutions, the University of Northern Virginia was accredited by ACICS between 2003 and 2008. The accreditation is shown as "terminated' on 08/06/08.

    The USDoE database sometimes (but not always) includes formerly accredited schools, as well as currently accredited ones.
     

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