New Accrediting Association?

Discussion in 'General Distance Learning Discussions' started by Bruce, Jul 6, 2001.

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  1. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator

    I was just hacking around the web, and while checking out Honolulu University's website, I notice they now claim accreditation from the "Global Accrediting Group", which they claim in turn is accredited by the United Nations. I will say that the acronymn (GAG) is most appropriate. Click "accreditation" on the left menu bar at:
    http://www.honolulu-university.edu/opening.htm

    Bruce
     
  2. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator

    Forgot to mention, also click on "founder message" for a good laugh. Does that guy look like Grandpa from the Munsters or what?? [​IMG]

    Bruce
     
  3. Chip

    Chip Administrator

    Great find, Bruce!

    I wonder from where they stole their course descriptions? I'm quite certain they didn't actually write them.

    Also, isn't it interesting that all of their faculty members have doctorates, but not a single one lists from where his or her doctorate comes.

    It might be fun when I have a few minutes to see if any of these folks are in "dissertation abstracts" [​IMG]
     
  4. Chip

    Chip Administrator

    OK, so I couldn't resist.

    So far, here's what I've found of their esteemed advisory board:

    Kenneth Harper, Ph.D. shows up only as faculty at the nonwonderful Friends International Christian University, accredited by our friends at ACI, with offices (OK, probalby PO boxes) in Hawaii and Louisiana.

    Robert Estell, Ph.D. teaches "Doodling with a Purpose" for Escondido Recreation and Parks, but apparently shows up nowhere else.

    Lee Gladden, Ph.D. is the author of "FROM ECSTASY TO SUCCESS", reported to be "an easy-to understand handbook for accessing the powerful, ecstatic core of your being from which all effortless manifestation arises."

    Edna Hansen, Ph.D., Michael Landsman, Ph.D., Kahee Hong, Ph.D, John Wakefield,Ph.D. all show up nowhere except on the Honolulu U website.

    I love it. Think I'll send an email and ask for contact info on these folks.
     
  5. bgossett

    bgossett New Member

    With changes in the course numbers, they otherwise are remarkably similar to some at Central Pacific University, another non-wonderful located in Hawaii. John notes in BG14 that HU's registrar was once affiliated with CPU. Naturally, it doesn't seem likely that they wrote them either.

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    Bill Gossett
     
  6. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Chip,

    Which institution offers the Ph.D. in "Doodling?" I've been thinking of doing a second Ph.D., after completing my first, and this sounds like something fun! Then, when I am old and decrepid, I can sit around and doodle, and do it right!!! [​IMG]

    Russell
     
  7. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Consider the following interview:

    HR Person:
    Mr. Jones, your CV looks excellent, your academic credentials are impressive, BA, MA, Ph.D. from H******* University.

    Mr. Jones:
    Thank you sir! I did invest large amounts of money and time earning the globally recognized degrees.

    HR Person:
    Now tell me, who accredits HU?

    Mr. Jones:
    A Global Accrediting Group, but I can't tell you their name. All I know is that they are accepted by several national governments---but not the United States.

    HR Person:
    Lets see, A Global Accrediting Group! You mean "A GAG!" Right? So you are kidding, right? Someone sent you here to pull my leg, right? He He! [Looking for the camera] Am I on Candid Camera?

    Mr. Jones:
    No sir! I have three globally accepted degrees--guaranteed by GAG!

    HR Person:
    Mr. Jones, a GAG is either a joke or someone about to regurgitate. And I'm about to do the latter. Good day, sir! [​IMG]
     
  8. Peter French

    Peter French member

    So another one that Chip doesn't like bites the dust? I hope one day I am around to see one bite your arse! Just because you have never made the grade, don't stop the attempts of others. ANY degree is better than NO degree.

    Think about it.

    Hey! - why don't you blame Pellar or factwatcher, or Dan????

    Peter French
     
  9. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator

    I think that Andrew Vesloski, Ruth Sucato, and Richard Shemetulskis might disagree with you.

    For those that don't know, those were the 3 people "outed" on Good Morning America for using degrees from Columbia State University, a notorious diploma mill. They were a court administrator, TV talk show psychologist, and college professor, respectively. All lost their jobs when the source of their "degrees" was revealed.

    Bruce
     
  10. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Are you suggesting that a degree from say A******n College (where one can obtain a Ph.D. for $199) is better than having no degree? A degree such as this would be the brunt of jokes if one tried to use it professionally, it could easily explode, producing embarrassment, humiliation, exposure, and possibly litigation.

    If the only choice I had was a degree like this or no degree at all, I would without hesitation choose the latter.

    Russell
     
  11. drwetsch

    drwetsch New Member

    Russell,

    Certainly a wise choice. I see no legitimacy in Peter's argument.

    Holders of fake degrees, such as Columbia State, who use these credentials to obtain positions should be exposed.

    John
     
  12. Peter French

    Peter French member


    Oh come on reverand Father Morris!

    I would rather have a backyard half baked non RA degree in a branch of commerce than some poofter RA peice of flash dunny paper saying i have atttained holiness and can count my rosary beads.

    What a wank!

    Peter French
     
  13. Peter French

    Peter French member

    There is a hell of a difference between CS and a genuine NO-RA outfit that requires quality and rigour, but but choses not to sleep with their peers and therefore can charge a reasonable fee.

    Peter French
     
  14. Guest

    Guest Guest

    I use neither Reverend nor Father, Peter. You may use "Dr." if you like, since my professional doctorate is regionally accredited, and my Ph.D. program is GAAP. [​IMG]

    Seriously, my response was in reference to your post about "ANY degree as opposed to NO degree." You state that there is a vast difference between Columbia State and a solid non-RA school. I agree. But this is not what you said in the earlier post, ("any degree is better than no degree"), and it was to this that I replied. Certainly, a non-RA degree may satisfy the need of a limited number of students, but my reference implied a much broader context.

    Russell
     

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