Looking for a DL Doctorate of Management Program

I'm looking for a DM program - I like Websters but it's not DL

Any others ????

 

If you're specifically looking for a Doctor of Management, the only one I've come across is the University of Phoenix DM. A bit spendy, total program running about $45,500. Also a somewhat newer program.

If you're open to PhD's or DBA's that you can focus on management, there are a number of options discussed in numerous other topics on this board.

 

Here are a couple of choices. Case Western has a very high quality program that meets every third weekend in Cleveland. UMUC has a program that specializes in IT.

DBA programs are quite similar. I personally favor NSU's program (but I'm biased being a graduate).

Thanks - Andy

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Andy Borchers, DBA
NSU (1996)

 

Case is good... skip Phoenix and Nova... Henley, University of Southern Queensland and University of Glasgow are good.

 

Hey - What's wrong with NSU? What do you base your judgement on? What experience do you have with Henley, Queensland or Glasgow?

Thanks - Andy

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Andy Borchers, DBA
NSU (1996)

 

If moderators ....

 

At this point, I think that Lewchuk should better explain his reasons for looking down on Nova's DBA program. Please don't base your argument on hearsay. I don't want to hear that some professors from university A and university B said yada yada yada. If you want to quote someone let it be someone who truly knows about the program. As for me, I don't know much about Nova's DBA program but I know for sure that our DBA graduates are gainfully employed in the academia. A google search of "DBA Nova" will confirm this. You may search for "D.B.A Nova". Lewchuk, I am interested in evidence. It seems your vituperations about Nova DBA are purely based on hearsay so far. I don't want to Comment on University of Southern Queensland because I don't have much info about their programs.

Ike

 

Does University of Glasgow have any DL program?

 

I’m a DBA student at the university of southern queensland. What I like about the program is that is highly structured so you know exactly your progress and any given moment on the contrary with its PhD that is just a dissertation and it is difficult to manage for a part time student. The program is of quality and you are required to do proctored exams in order to assure the quality of the program. Examination centers are around the world. You are not required to go to USQ, but they have optional on-campus residences in case the student needs face-to-face contact. You could talk to your supervisor using telephone conferences, videoconferences or face-to-face. I know that professors travel around the world to meet with the students. In few words USQ comes to you without loosing the quality of the on-ground based education.

 

The programs are all quite different, so that aspect is personal.
Let's get serious for a moment,
Case, Henley and Glasgow are world class schools. Not only will no knowledgable person question a credential from these schools, they will be impressed.
USQ is an average public Australian University, perhaps equal in stature to a better public US school. Again, no knowledgable person will question this credential.
I am not suggesting that Nova is a mill or that it may not meet some peoples needs. However, to suggest that it has the recognition of any of the above is silly. So proper advice would be to consider the ones above and only if they cannot meet your needs... and Nova can... should you persue the later.

 

Yes Ike, Nova is as recognized as Harvard, LBS and Case... everyone should go to Nova.

Feel better now?

 

Yes, they have a DL DBA. I think it is very limited residency (i.e. 1 short visit at the front end to set up the program).

 

I gotta agree with Ike here. Newer people ask questions on this board look at 'regular' posters as experts. Providing evaluations that rest heavily on rumor / antedote / etc. is not doing the board a service. If there is an issue with a school, please detail it so others can check it out (via rebuttal or support). This is how understanding grows - not by throwing out regurgitations (sp?) from 2nd or 3rd hand sources.

Barry Foster

 

Hrm. I was with you on Case. Glasgow would probably not have rung a bell if I weren't interested in distance education and/or religious studies. USQ certainly wouldn't have. To acquaint myself with them, as Dummy Human Resource Manager #1,317, would require learning something about the way the UK and Australia evaluate schools. Meanwhile, Nova is regionally accredited by the Southern Association, my nearest regional accrediting body. No offense -- I'm going for an Australian doctorate myself -- but Ike does have a point.


Peace,

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Tom Head
www.tomhead.net

 

Strange opinion. When someone goes to the business dean of a public University and asks for advice concerning doctoral studies in business and that dean recommends NOT going to Nova... that experience has no value to others considering pursuing doctoral business studies at Nova? Personally, I want to know of these experiences... anecdotal, yes but enough anecdotes summ to perception and others perception are important.

If fact many of the questions on this board are "is this recognized" or "is this accepted", which beg for an anecdotal response (i.e. what has been your experience?).

Bottom line is... you just don't like my anecdotes (sorry).

 

Tom,
There are two situations, one where you encounter people who don't know the schools (ignorant) and ones who do (knowledgeable).
Your dummy HR manager will discount Glasgow, USQ and Henley to the mean (i.e. 2nd tier)... not fair but life isn't always fair. Meanwhile he may well know that Nova is a 4th tier school with a sketchy reputation. Which do you want Tom?
Personally I never pay much mind to the ignorant because, well, they are ignorant. I am more concerned with the opinions of those who have had meaningful exposure to the schools in question.

 

Reality Check

Tom,
Sometimes we need a serious reality check on this board. I have nothing against Nova... I sporadically consider their doctorate until I again realize how expensive it is. However if I ever do get a Nova doctorate (unlikely) I will get it with the full recognition that it is not a great school and that knowledgable people may very well be laughing their asses off at me and I only hope that I have the self worth to be proud of my accomplishment and the humility to recognize the value of that accomplishment without trying to pretend it is more than it is.
PS I have 2 undergrad degrees from less than wonderful schools and although they have served me fine I would not recommend them.

 

Given that I don't laugh at other people's credentials, I don't usually worry about them laughing at mine; I've run into some dimbulbs from Harvard and some sharp eggs who never finished high school. But I think there's something to be said for holding a regionally accredited or otherwise recognized doctorate in and of itself, regardless of whether or not the school is prestigious, and of course the issue with recognition is whether or not the person you're speaking with recognizes the recognition. In a university setting, schools around here have to deal with SACS, so the folks in charge of hiring me at same would be able to relate to a SACS-accredited doctorate. I expect they'd have a little more difficulty with my planned AQF-approved one, but I'm not going to lose any sleep over that; if I woke up every morning worried about what people might think of me, I'd have rolled over and majored in business years ago.


Peace,

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Tom Head
www.tomhead.net

 

OK, I guess we'll take this to specifics. Frankly, I don't know what your anecdotes are. I do know that you post quite often - writing in an authorative fashion. I am refering to tossing out blurbs - without backing them up. In this case - for example - provide some backup information on why you feel as you do. Your story of a single dean making a single comment is fine. As long as its not 'put out there' as if all the deans have these type of feelings towards a school. If I put a lot of weight on what a single dean told me, I'd say things like 'avoid Nova' too. However, I know some deans and realize they are just as prone to bias and error as anyone else.

I enjoy your ancedotes (if I could remember them I'm sure), but don't put much weight on them. One conversation is just that - one single conversation.

I am not picking on you in particular. I do notice a trend: A position is stated frequently, and others start to adopt it. Suddenly, it becomes 'fact'. For example, I remember one post (can't remember who wrote it) where an school was dissed because the poster had read some negative posts on this board. No facts, just passing on rumors.

Another of my 'strange' opinions: If an individual is going to post regularly on this board - esp. when writing as an authority (or in the tone of an authority as I feel you do) - back up thoughts with reasoning. And be prepared to either defend them or change them.

For example in this case: At first, you say to 'skip Nova' without any further information. After being challenged, you say that a dean advised you to avoid it (no indivudal named, no school named, no way to substaniate your experience). This information only comes out *after* being challenged by a few other posters.

People make decisions from information provided on this consumer-centric board.

Am I off base here? What do you think? I'm not trying to be argumentative. Seriously, I'm really trying to understand if I've just jumped to the wrong conclusion. (It wouldn't be the first time.)

Barry Foster