Adjunct lectureship with only a Bachelors.

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  1. Jodokk

    Jodokk Member

    O.K. Obviously one can get a teaching position at the local community college in the business, IT, or allied trades category with only a bachelor's degree, but check this out from Adjunctnation.com.

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    Position: Adjunct
    Institution: Queens College
    Location: Flushing, NJ, NY United States
    Application Due Date: July 20, 2005


    Adjunct - Psychology
    In order to enlarge and enrich the pool of candidates from which the College draws adjunct instructional staff, Queens College is seeking curriculum vitae from qualified applicants in the following fields:
    Psychology

    Salary:
    Minimum Rates:
    Adjunct Assistant Professor $60.79
    Teaching Adjunct Lecturer $53.60
    Non-teaching Adjunct $32.16
    Qualifications:
    Baccalaureate required for Adjunct Lecturer positions. Ph.D. or equivalent required for Adjunct Assistant/Associate/Full Professor.
    Experienced adjuncts are preferred.
    $60.79 per contact hour
    Please send curriculum vitae to an appropriate department chairperson at:
    Queens College - CUNY
    65-30 Kissena Blvd.
    Flushing, NY 11367-1597
    Department Chair
    http://www.qc.edu

    This is new to me. Has anyone else heard of this? I was under the impression that in an RA school, all lecturers, assistant professors (beside grad students ENROLLED AT THE SCHOOL as teaching assistants) and professors must have a masters degree and 18 credits in whichever discipline they are employeed to teach.
    I take this listing as saying... with my COSC bachelor's degree in psych and my few grad credits, I can snag a Teaching Adjunct Lectureship at a CUNY college. Am I right or am I deluded (how's that for a tempting post!).

    O.K. so, I'm usually deluded.
    thx, any thoughts?
     
  2. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    I have seen first-hand where bachelor's-qualified teachers were appointed lecturers. At San Diego State, Army ROTC instructors were normally bachelor's qualified (often appointed to their positions to enable them to take their master's at the host school for free--in the agreement with the host school). They were appointed as "lecturers," then "promoted" to assistant professor after taking their master's degrees.

    Navy ROTC had some of these, too. Air Force ROTC, however, required we all had master's before our appointments, so we were all assistant professors at our host schools.
     
  3. Jodokk

    Jodokk Member

    Yes

    I can dig that, by which I mean assistantships for current grad student at the institution in which they are enrolled. But, a psych teaching position in a recognized RA college, with only a bachelor's degree, and without being a grad student. I was surprised. Wish there were some around here.
    I work in the writing lab at the local community college, gratis, just to get some resume fodder for teaching at the college level. I couldn't imagine working as an adjuct without my masters here in Asheville NC.
    It would be awfully cool. I have even considered doing the BA in 4 weeks deal for a quick business degree from Excelsior to teach in the business section of the same community college.
     
  4. blaketots

    blaketots New Member

    This is actually not unusual and is permitted in accrediting standards for RA schools. I teach at two community colleges and have not yet completed my MBA.

    The caveat is this.... you may only teach non-transfer courses with a Bachelors, if the course will transfer to a 4-year school, the instructor must have the Master's and 18 hours. In fact, the SACS guidelines stipulate that you actually only need an Associates degree to teach non-transfer courses. I don't know of a single school that would actually hire an adjunct with an Associate, though unless it was in Auto Mechanics or something like that.

    My field is accounting, so the only courses which transfer to a 4-year school are the first two accounting courses that all business majors must have. The remaining courses at the community college level are Cost Accounting, Intermediate, Taxation, etc. If one wants a BS in Accounting, they cannot transfer these higher level accounting courses from a 2-year school which is why most AS in Business Administration degrees do not have any accounting courses beyond those first two.

    Most community colleges offer the Associate in Applied Science degree in Accounting which requires the advanced courses. Students who receive these degrees are those who plan to go straight into a job as a bookkeeper or accounts payable clerk or something like that. If they want to later get the BS, they will have to take the classes over again at the 4-year level.

    Now the interesting thing is that I can teach Intermediate Accounting at a 2-year school which is far more advanced than Financial Accounting I & I or Managerial Accounting I & II. However, because of accrediting standards I cannot teach Financial and Managerial until I finish the Master's. It's very strange, indeed.
     
  5. Jodokk

    Jodokk Member

    Interesting

    That's pretty straiught forward. Thanks.
     
  6. Randell1234

    Randell1234 Moderator

    I went to a job fair at the local community college and they we looking for instructor for their Funeral Services program. The requirement was an associates degree.
     
  7. decimon

    decimon Well-Known Member

    Is that a terminal degree?
     
  8. Randell1234

    Randell1234 Moderator

    I am not sure. I think it is.
     
  9. Randell1234

    Randell1234 Moderator

  10. JoAnnP38

    JoAnnP38 Member

    :D
     
  11. BillDayson

    BillDayson New Member

    Re: Yes

    My guess is that Queens College has simply posted the generic minimum requirements for any of their lecturer positions. That doesn't necessarily mean that somebody with only a bachelors degree would have any chance at all of landing one of these jobs.

    I've seen lecturers with bachelors degrees. They usually teach subjects like electrical engineering where practitioners typically don't have doctorates. Most often these lecturers boast many years of industry experience on top of their BSEEs. They often have personal R&D experience with the things they are teaching.

    But psychology? In New York?? I can't imagine it happening.

    Psychology is one of those subjects where extra-academic practitioners typically have doctorates. And New York City is one of those places that's crawling with out-of-work or under-employed individuals with advanced degrees. Competition for CUNY psychology teaching positions is probably going to be extremely fierce.
     
  12. Jodokk

    Jodokk Member

    Exactly!

    My thoughts as well. One has to wonder why they would even post this. Especially when all the Regional Accreditors require transfer classes have a master's level instructor. Weird.
    Thanks
    Dan B
     

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