SCUPS is an unaccredited, California-approved school. Under the best of conditions, a degree from this type of school may limit your options, and this might be especially so for an Oregon resident. ------------------ Bill Gossett
I will repeat what I said in another thread: SCUPS is California-approved, but has no recognized accreditation, and there is a *HUGE* difference. That basically means that outside California, a SCUPS degree will have little value other than as a wall decoration. I don't believe that SCUPS is a degree mill or has nefarious purposes in mind, it's just that their degrees have a geographical limitation. Sort of like the ballplayers in "Field of Dreams", they can't cross the foul line (or on this case, the CA state line). The monetary savings just isn't worth it, IMO. You're much better off getting a regionally accredited (RA) degree that will never be questioned. It's money well-spent. Bruce
If you don't mind the Masters being in Counseling (qualifies generally for LPC Board licensure) then try http://www.liberty.edu Liberty does not have a religious requirement for those in the DL part. A couple of classes need to be done on campus in two week modules (eg Group Counseling). They are fairly affordable & RA. Courses are delivered through VHS tape. If you happen to be military or using VA benefits then they are very affordable. North
I agree with Bruce, except that I would point out that a SCUPS degree may not have all that much utility IN California, either. While many mental health professionals in the state have degrees from unaccredited schools, it is very important that you know exactly how your degree will help you in your career. If there is any doubt, your best option is to pursue a degree from an accredited school. That will ensure a wider set of options. Rich Douglas
It was something of an irritation to me that SCUPS advertised in the NASW (National Association of Social Workers) newsletter. There's an ad every month and it has been that way for many years. Several years ago I had the opportunity to ask a NASW administrator why that might be. She said that, as Social Workers, we are already licensed to practice psychotherapy, etc. virtually anywhere so if the PhD is good for nothing except "wall decoration" then that's OK with many people. If anyone ever questions their doctoral degree they simply point to their RA MSW degree and their license to practice and say something like, "You may not approve of my PhD but that's really irrelevant because I don't need it to practice anyway." My sense, based on nothing other than knowing a whole bunch of Social Workers, is that it is a marketing tool for those in private practice. Jack