Impressions of Touro Business PhD

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  1. searchingforPhD

    searchingforPhD New Member

    Hi everyone,
    My first post here. Sorry if this post is not in the spirit of this forum.
    I am looking for an online or mostly online PhD program in business. My goal is to teach part time in an online MBA program.
    I have researched many programs. One program that seems fit for my needs is the PhD in business administration program at TUI (Touro University International).
    I would like to ask if anyone who is in the program or a graduate would be willing to share some experiences. What kind of load should I expect? Is there much interaction between the students, and between students and faculty? Are there assignments every week? How much reading and writing should I expect? What is a reasonable time frame for completing the program while working full time? I expect to devote about 10 hours a week to this.
    Thanks very much for any feedback anyone can give me.
    Regards,
    SearchingforPhD
     
  2. Dave Wagner

    Dave Wagner Active Member

    Hi. Welcome to the group. Taking one class at a time (four semester hours) in the TUI Ph.D. BA program will require about 20 hours per week to do well, so you'll need to free up more time than you've estimated. Since you'll be spending all your free time for the next four years on the Ph.D., I wouldn't attempt it unless you have a normal forty hour work week and an intense desire to teach full time in the future. Write me offline at [email protected] if you would like to discuss your situation more in depth.
     
  3. DTechBA

    DTechBA New Member

    10 hours a week?

    That is a little less time a week than writing a dissertation would require unless you simply wish to take longer.

    Also, if cost is a factor expect to spend a minimum of $2000 (probably more since editing and statistics advising can easily reach that) on expenses while doing your program.

    I am currently writing my dissertation (not at Touro, but it is pretty much standard) and will probably put in in about 20 hours this week which is a week that I have other obligations keeping me from it.

    A PhD is a huge drain on your time and your sanity. Being aware of the load prior to starting will help you finish.
     
  4. aa4nu

    aa4nu Member

    20 hours per is a minimum.

    To echo the wise words from DTechBA and Dave, you
    really need to decide if you have the time resources
    to do this with excellence. 20/hr per week is a START.

    I'd suggest a search of this site for discussions of the
    various DL PhD programs offered by several schools, as
    there are many excellent options to select from today.

    Myself, I'm in the TUI program, and you can PM if you
    would like my comments as to the pluses and minuses
    from one student's perspective.

    One other thought, depending on your exact plans, is
    that you might NOT need the PhD to teach. Rather you
    will need 18 graduate hours in each field of interest.

    Hope this helps ...

    Billy
     
  5. searchingforPhD

    searchingforPhD New Member

    The 10 hours comment grabbed all the attention...

    Thanks, Dave, DTechBA, and Billy.
    I guess my comment about the 10 hours grabbed all the attention. Teaches me a lesson :) . I was merely saying what I expect to devote, not more.
    What this did is draw attention away from my other questions. Can someone comment on these other questions?
    I would like to ask if anyone who is in the program or a graduate would be willing to share some experiences. What kind of load should I expect? Is there much interaction between the students, and between students and faculty? Are there assignments every week? How much reading and writing should I expect? What is a reasonable time frame for completing the program while working full time?
    I will PM Dave and Billy, thanks to both of you for offering.
     
  6. Dave Wagner

    Dave Wagner Active Member

    Re: Re: Impressions of Touro Business PhD

    Actually, I should have included research in that comment... The TUI Ph.D. program is a full research program that prepares one for a broad range of research and teaching activities. You must have a strong desire to research and teach to motivate yourself to complete this program. It's tough but worth it...

    Dave
     
  7. Dave Wagner

    Dave Wagner Active Member

    Re: The 10 hours comment grabbed all the attention...

    I'm in the dissertation stage of the TUI Ph.D. BA program but previously earned a practitioner-oriented D.B.A. at the State-Approved California Pacific University and an M.B.A. at Santa Clara University (RA, AACSB). TUI Ph.D. students interact in each class through discussion boards and during biweekly online classroom meetings that resemble an interactive chatroom. There are a couple of unofficial student groups that interact on teaching and research interests via Yahoo! Groups. I've visited the campus twice and met with my chair twice at academic conferences, but none of these meetings were required. Major course assignments are typically due every two weeks and work load varies with the courses. I took two classes during two terms but generally took one class at a time, because of work, family, church and adjunct teaching committments. If you want to attempt to earn a high grade average, wring as much as you can out of the course work phase, and be ready for comps, I would recommend taking the research methods courses by themselves and possibly doubling up for the other courses. Still, allocate 15-20 hours per week per course. If you are a perfectionist, you may find yourself needing even more time. Do you remember any stats? Perhaps you may find yourself spending more time to fill in for deficiencies. This is a real Ph.D. program that is comparable to what is delivered at state institutions of higher learning. For example, I've been to couple of academic conferences and have roomed with Ph.D. students in traditional programs; never, was I not able to discuss research methods or the conferences as well as they were able to. At one conference, I participated in the doctoral consortium with other Ph.D. students and was able to converse at or above the level of the other students in traditional programs. The TUI Ph.D. programs are excellent and I recommend the Ph.D. BA program in particular... However, you must become a Ph.D level researcher and the degree will be conferred as a result of completing that process; this is not an addition to your re'sume' but a change in your way of life... Well, enough rambling.

    Best wishes,

    Dave
     
  8. searchingforPhD

    searchingforPhD New Member

    Thanks, Dave

    Thanks, Dave. This is great information. I like it.
    I guess I will need to make a decision with my family if we are ready for it.
     

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