Interesting link regarding AMU/APUS

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  1. aic712

    aic712 Member

    I found this very interesting:

    http://www.ope.ed.gov/accreditation/InstDetail.asp

    The US DOE office of post-secondary education lists APUS as accredited by North Central as well as DETC.

    North Central still lists them as a candidate:

    http://www.ncahigherlearningcommission.org/directory/index.php?form_submitted=TRUE&status=historical&institution=american+public

    From what I have seen, AMU/APUS is a very good institution, and I have nothing against their programs (master's in civil war studies is awesome as I am a history buff) I just thought this was interesting.
     
  2. drferret

    drferret New Member

    AMU

    I'm in the MA in Humanities program and just checked the web site after seeing your post.

    AMU/APUS is still only a Candidate for RA. They expect another site visit sometime in 2005. Unless the DOE guys just compiled an undifferentiated list from North Central, there is no reason I can think of why AMU/APUS shows up as full RA.

    For what it is worth, I like the program a lot. It's not a cinch to get through and the professors I've interacted with seem to have a sense of humor.... thank god for small miracles.
     
  3. BillDayson

    BillDayson New Member

    I believe that the US government treats schools in pre-accreditation status as if they were accredited, for most purposes.

    CHEA's database does the same thing, but they make it clear that their listings include both accredited and pre-accredited schools.
     
  4. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    New federal degree rules
    The following was issued by the United States Office of Personnel Managment on Monday, January 31, 2005, and applies to the use of degrees by federal employees.

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    Agencies should use the following criteria to determine the acceptability of post high school education or training at an accredited business or technical school, junior college, college or university. It is the applicant's responsibility to provide documentation or proof that he or she has met the applicable educational provisions described in this subsection. An official transcript; statement from the institution's registrar, dean, or other appropriate official; or equivalent documentation is acceptable. Agencies must ensure that the applicants’ education or credentials meet the criteria below.

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    Conventional/Accredited Institutions—At the time the education was obtained, the entire institution, applicable school within the institution, or the applicable curriculum was appropriately accredited by an accrediting body recognized by the Secretary of the U.S. Department of Education. Military schools or military educational programs that meet this criterion are also acceptable. For additional information, refer to the U.S. Department of Education web site at http://www.ed.gov/admis/finaid/accred/index.html. A complete listing of all institutions accredited by recognized agencies, including those located outside of U.S. territories may be found in Accredited Institutions of Post-Secondary Education, a handbook published annually by the American Council on Education (ACE). Institutions located within the United States that have attained accreditation as well as recognized accrediting agencies are listed on the U.S. Department of Education web site at http://www.ed.gov/offices/list/ope/.

    Correspondence or distance learning course work is also acceptable if the applicable school within the institution or applicable curriculum is accredited by an accrediting body that is recognized by the Secretary of the U.S. Department of Education. The distance learning courses should indicate the credit hours for each course and be indicated on the degree transcript together with traditional course work and credits.

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    Unless the foreign education meets the criteria in paragraph (a) above, applicants must submit all necessary documents to a private U.S. organization that specializes in interpretation of foreign educational credentials, commonly called a credential evaluation service. To be acceptable, the foreign credential evaluation must include/describe:
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    __________________
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    Administrator
    Oregon Office of Degree Authorization
    Oregon Student Assistance Commission

    Pre-Accredited/Candidate for Accreditation Status—At the time that the education was obtained, the entire institution, applicable school within the institution, or applicable curriculum had acquired “preaccreditation” or “candidate for accreditation status” that is recognized by the Secretary of the U.S. Department of Education.
     
  5. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Re: AMU

    October, when I discussed it with them in December.
     

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