hi! i was very much interested in higher education (Phd). To fulfill my dream, i got enrolled for MS(cs) IN DETC accreditted school After 3 years of effort i have completed the course and got the masters degee (had to comlete 13 courses) BUT after so much of effort ... i am not sure whether i should feel happy or not . Given the reputation associated with DETC courses , i dont feel it'll be easy to get admission in Phd and that too in regionally accreditted schools like OSU, Northcentral,..reputed schools.. Should i feel happy ???
Congratulations on your accomplishment. Of course you should feel happy. You have taken a journey that required commitment, focus, and sacrifice and have come out the other side with the reward of those sacrifices. You should be very proud of what you have successfully completed. If you wish to go on to a doctoral program, you will find some that will accept your DETC accredited Master's degree. Don't let anyone, especially yourself, question your efforts in successfully completing your degree program. You are letting too much of the forum rhetoric get to you. Any school that is successful in attaining DETC accreditation is as legitimate as any school that achieves RA accreditation. Debate on relative utility is valid. Debate about legitimacy is not. Use the experience to move you forward.
Paul i can see that you have also done Phd from diatance learning school. good to see My interest is to go work as a scientist after doing Phd. Do you think if i do Phd thru distance learning school , i will be able to work with any industry at a Scientist post . well here i am talking about IT industry... what do you say..
Congratulations. Having RA masters degree is no garanty of acceptance to post graduate programs, it will have advantage over NA degree. My friend David who graduated with BA and MA degrees from California State University Long Beach couldn't get in to Ph.D programs in any of the schools of his choice. He Finlay was accepted in to University in a East Coast with no name recognition. Even if he gets his Ph.D I don't think he will have the teaching jobs he dreamed about. As far as the trend I think DETC degree acceptance is improoving. Fully accredited Masters Degree is an achievement that should make you proud. You may have a better chance with UNISA and other better name foreign universities as well. Learner
University Of South Africa? do they conduct PHD programs thru distance learning. Is UNSA a reupted university.?
Yes, UNISA offers doctoral degrees completely thru distance learning. It is a respected university and is the largest University in South Africa.
You might be interested in this link: DETC accredited UNISA UNISA is one of a handful of non-US institutions that hold DETC accreditation. UNISA has accepted other DETC graduates into their doctoral programs. Unisa sought accreditation for a number of reasons including: • a desire for national and international benchmarking of the quality of its teaching and services, • an external source of stimulation to improve services, programmes and staff, • benefits to its graduates of having a degree from a university accredited in the US and • the possibility of attracting US students because of the accreditation.
i checked the website of UNSA, seems to be pretty reputed univ. one doubt is there, pls read the pts .. Does this mean we have to be present in UNSA for somtime.. ? " 7.1.2 Regular Supervision Although Unisa is a distance education institution,advanced degrees cannot be obtained through ‘correspondence’ only. All students must avail themselves for regular supervision in one of two ways: 1. Regular in-person weekly or monthly meetings with the supervisor lasting at least one hour. At these meetings the students progress and work will be discussed and assessed. 2. An annual visit of at least ten working days to the School for supervision, to deliver the required seminars, conduct research in the laboratories and/or library, and to plan future research. The costs of such visits (including travel and accommodation) must be carried by the student.
hi! well actually one more doubt UnISA is accreditted by DETC, that means the courses upto MS are accreditted. so how can it offer Phd ..becuse DETC recognises upto masters only/ Or Phd is recognised by some SA accreditting agency??
Look, the utility of a DETC degree depends entirely on the student's objective. The fact the US Military reimburses/pays for military personnel to take DETC programs is proof positive that they are a legitimate operation. There's nothing I can see that suggests any of their operations are unethical or sinister. On the contrary, they have revoked accreditation of several institutions which have failed to maintain their standards. Moreover, anyone who has observed the DETC for even a couple of years can see they are providing reliable accreditation (by their standards). Their refusal to accredit several "less than wonderful schools" (as described by Dr. Bear) is further testimony to their integrity and honesty. That said, there are any number of people who come to this forum for the first time who might equate DETC and RA accreditation. They are BY NO MEANS EQUAL. As Bear and his associates have pointed out time and time again, only a minority of RA colleges SOMETIMES accept DETC credit. Whether that is fair or not is beside the point. The fact is it's true, and I'd hate to see somebody shell out big bucks and a lot of work on a DETC degree expecting to go to grad school at an RA institution, only to find out they can't do it. Yes, yes, I know there are SOME DETC grads who have done that, but we're talking the norm here. People who point out the limitations of DETC schools typically aren't out to trash anybody's reputation -- they're simply trying to get the facts out. The college to which I am transferring will only accept RA distance education credit -- no exceptions. I suspect they are typical in that sense. Rome wasn't built in a day. I admire what the DETC has done in recent years, and I have even written and told them so. I envision the day when DETC credit will be equal to RA. But in my opinion that day is not here yet.
You are correct that the UNISA doctoral programs are no DETC accredited. UNISA does not rely on DETC accreditation for its acceptance or legitimacy. Due to its state level degree granting authority, it is similar in nature to US RA accreditation.
DETC accreditation for UNISA is a relatively new thing, and really doesn't have any impact on the legitimacy of the school or its degrees. UNISA is a recognized degree-granting university in South Africa whose degrees are accepted around the world. DETC makes it claer that their accreditation only exteds to the master's level. Thus, doctoral degrees from UNISA would not be part of that. But no matter, for they're already the equivalent of accredited.
DETC's scope of authority currently extends through the Master's and professional doctorate (Juris Doctor) degree level. However, it appears as if they are applying for scope expansion to include the accreditation of academic doctorate programs. More information is available at www.detc.org In any event, congratulations on your accomplishment! If you want it bad enough, you will be able to gain entry into a regionally accredited PhD program. Have you looked at Touro University? They might have what you are looking for. See www.tourou.edu Also, it may not be a bad idea for you to take the applicable admissions exam (GMAT, GRE, etc) for your field of study. If you score high on the standardized test, universities may be more willing to work with you.
Re: Re: Got DETC Masters Oooh... that's good. I like that. I'm gonna' use that... if that's okay. That says it exactly. I mean exactly. Debate on (DETC's) relative utility is valid. Debate about (DETC's) legitimacy is not. Oooh... that's good.
You should be proud of your accomplishment as Paul pointed out! I too am going to graduate with a DETC MBA and look forward to going for a doctorate in the near future. Remember, there are lots and lots of options despite of having a DETC masters, to go for a PhD. The key is to research through the forum threads! Do that and you'll find a multitude of options for doctoral degrees with a DETC accredited masters... I know I did! You will see an incredible wealth of knowledge just waiting to be found if you read what people have debated about on this board.
I will add more echo to Paul's statement. Earning a degree from a DETC-accredited school is a prideful thing. Some graduates who post here, however, take criticisms about the utility of such degrees to be criticisms of the degrees (and their holders). This is not so. I firmly believe that all DETC-accredited schools are legitimate. I do not, on the other hand, feel that way about California-Approved schools, because I feel the state has let its standards go to waste. There is too much variability there, and I feel the state's approval isn't enough anymore. But DETC? Much more consistent. Keep in mind, however, that there are limitations to the acceptability of degrees from DETC-accredited schools that severe compared to RA schools. Fair? I don't know, and I normally don't try to assess it. But it is very much real.
