California Coast University

Someone posted on another website a very interesting list regarding California Coast University and it's graduates.
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California Coast University (CCU) Accreditation Profile

http://ope.ed.gov/accreditation/InstDetail.asp (US. Department of Education)

https://app1.dca.ca.gov/bppve/school-search/ (State of California)

http://www.chea.org/institutions/ac...m?CheaID=8533.0 (Council for Higher Education Accreditation)

http://www.detc.org/degree.html#coast (Distance Education Training Council)

California Coast University (CCU) Doctorate Degree Holders – Alumni

CCU Ph.D. Degree Holders With Faculty Position:
http://www.ucihs.uci.edu/psych/facu...uis_profile.htm Marquis P. Vawter

http://www.psycc.org/faculty.htm Judith Hyman

http://www.unl.edu/e-news/submissio...Oct.9.2001.html Tran

http://www.sbgi.edu/html/adjfaculty.html Federico Grosso

http://www.integrativemedicine.ariz...ch/fellows.html Melinda Connor

http://goldey.gbc.edu/faculty_staff/teachers.html Richard Brasefield
http://staff.business.auckland.ac.nz/glorigan Geoffrey Lorigan
http://www.fammed.usouthal.edu/Resi...Pages/Adams.htm Martha Adams
http://ubonline.edu/webbach/faculty.html George Andrea
http://electrochem.cwru.edu/yeager/announce.html Diane Hooie
http://www.lcsc.edu/business/Staff/GerryR.htm Gerald Ramey
http://www.mecat-edu.com/about/faculty.htm Bassem Kaissi
http://www.uwm.edu/Dept/Business/al...l2001/pope.html Carol Vollmer Pope
http://www.llu.edu/llu/dentistry/de...00/DeptNews.htm Lynn L. McKendry
http://www.bryant.edu/bryant/facult...ngham_frank.jsp Frank Bingham
http://pathology.uthscsa.edu/faculty/sutton.htm Deanna Sutton
http://www.conted.utulsa.edu/staff/paula.asp Paula Hogard
http://www.mba.athabascau.ca/titan/...8D?OpenDocument Ike Hall
http://rome.gcsu.edu:8090/4DCGI/SAC...yDetail/1078523 Robert Lowe
http://department.txwes.edu/psy/faculty.htm Michael L. Ellison
http://www.txwesleyan.edu/registrar...ad/TRUSTEES.htm Michael L. Ellison
http://www.breyerstate.com/resume-dominick-flarey.htm Dominick L. Flarey
http://www.fredonia.edu/business/faculty.asp Lisa Walters
http://www.argosyu.edu/campusdetail.asp?page=campuses&campusarea=ocfaculty&campusName='&id=26 Dr. Stephen J. Hoogerbrugge
http://www2.scps.nyu.edu/dyncon/mcg..._facu_a_to.html George Cherubini
http://www.nsula.edu/psych-online/faculty.htm Susan Barnett
http://www.pueblocc.edu/faculty/ptinst3.htm Robert Watkins
http://new.stjohns.edu/academics/un...lty/faculty.sju Kenneth R. Cohen
http://www.bccc.state.md.us/metadot...45&isa=Category Stephen E. Frempong
http://www.university.edu/General_C...y_profiles.html Lumiko A. Bays
http://www.cula.edu/pg_details.asp?...2&idCategory=80 Thomas Lin
http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cach...+Degre e&hl=en Bill J. Duke
http://www.sfbc.edu/faculty.html Gary L. Rogers
http://www.math.vt.edu/org/maa/spr00/xbiogs.html John W. Alexander Jr.
http://www.mse.ncsu.edu/faculty.html#research John Russ
http://www.sonoma.edu/ar/catalog/emeritus.html Michael Baldigo
http://www.webster.nl/site119/index...WS1=467&INC=202 Eric de Roos

CCU Ph.D. Degree Holders With Non-Faculty Position:
http://therapists.psychologytoday.c...1088136489_2381 J.M Evosevich
http://www.gestalt.org/file26.htm Cecil R. Benoit
http://www.schopc.org/AboutUs/president Ed L. Hansen
http://www.issseem.org/ConnorBio.html Melinda Connor
http://www.state.sc.us/dmh/newsrelease/jun28_04.htm Alison Y. Evans
http://www.fadetoblack.com/children Anthony Harper
http://imtcsamba.hct.ac.ae/qdg/Further%20Ed.htm Awad Osman
http://www.alohasys.com/staff.htm Dr. Brian C. Stevens
http://www.dirige.eslsca.fr/aboutus...ent/faculty.htm Mario Missakian
http://www.netmanage.com/company/executives.asp Ron Rudolph, VP, Human Resources
http://www4.army.mil/USAR/ambassador/states/va.htm Ronald L. Adolphi
http://www.tensilica.com/html/pr_2002_09_23b.html David P. Toombs
http://www.askthebusinessdoctor.com/aboutus.shtml
http://www.drjohnruss.com/about.html John Russ
http://www.argee.net/resume.htm Robert G. Williscroft
http://www.drjet.com/resproj/RESU0103.HTM James Edward Turney
http://www.issm.org/fellows/emerick/ Tracy Emerick
http://www.lagosforum.com/comment.php?NR=574 Ausbeth Ajagu
http://www.profstevens.com/RESUME.htm David Stevens
http://www.riskworld.com/Profsoci/s...95/ps5ae308.htm Robert J. Mulvihill
http://xanedu.proquest.com/originalworks/frempong Stephen E. Frempong
http://www.coactiveconnection.com/johnd.htm John D. Tongren
http://www.legco.gov.hk/general/eng...yr04-08/wyh.htm WONG Yu-hong
http://www.usmint.gov/pressroom/ind..._release&id=486 Rita Laws
http://www.nicon.org/neutralground/about.html Virginia R. Balser
http://www.documents-examiner.com MaryAnne Czermak
http://www.acs-inc.com/about/bios/lora.html Lora Villarreal
http://www.cdeckert.com/curtdeckert.htm Curt Deckert
http://www.objectivistcenter.org/ce...osophy-mind.asp Roger Bissell
http://www.eeweb.ee.ucla.edu/alumni...dmemberlist.php Asad Madni
http://www.behaviortherapy.com/BobMeyersvita.htm Robert J. Meyers

CCU D.B.A. Degree Holders With Faculty Position:
http://www.mdivs.edu/lifeissuescounseling.html Dennis D. Frey
http://www.pimall.com/nais/d-ms.html James Welsh
http://www.accd.edu/nvc/areas/cis/bio/pennington.htm Andy Pennington
http://www.ciachef.edu/pcabinet/staff_gielisse1.html Victor A. L. Gielisse, C.M.C., C.H.E.
http://www.hellenic.hchc.edu/pages/...es/mkisembo.asp Michael Kisembo
http://www.argosyu.edu/lcontent/?location=12&subpg=264 Robert Rabidoux
http://www.hellenic.hchc.edu/pages/...es/mkisembo.asp Michael Kisembo
CCU D.B.A. Degree Holders Without Faculty Position:
http://www.ctcd.cc.tx.us/ci_personnel.pdf
http://www.cyberhaven.com/businessb...g-books-30.html B. Stoker
http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cach...BA+Degree&hl=en Phillip Sax
http://sut2.sut.ac.th/auap/board_new%20member.html Carmen Z. Lamagna
http://www.asq-nwi.org/directory.htm Milton Krivokuca

CCU Ed.D. Degree Holders With Faculty Position:
http://ipt.boisestate.edu/faculty/BErickson.htm Bob Erickson
http://www.alliance.edu/content.php?action=faculty Jose D. Camacho
http://www.csus.edu/fl/spanish/moore.htm Kathleen Moore
http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cach...+D egree&hl=en Mary E. Witherspoon
http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cach...+Degre e&hl=en Shellie Gutierrez
http://216.239.39.104/search?q=cach...BA+Degree&hl=en Larry Butler

CCU Ed.D. Degree Holders Without Faculty Position:
http://www.hfglendale.org/UserDocs/...d%20Council.htm Mrs. Grace Mendez
http://www.chinatranslate.net/en1/zt/whitehouse06.htm Patricia Hill Williams
http://www.romielittrellpubs.homestead.com/files/CV.htm Romie Frederick Littrell
http://www.modelfitness.com/john_ellis.html John Spencer Ellis
http://www.htr.org/Pages/htr/htr_ke...ley_past_ed.htm Kevin J. Kelley

CCU Psy.D. Degree Holders With Faculty Position:
http://www.smu.edu/psychology/faculty/lecturers.html Tom Cox
http://facweb.bhc.edu/academics/sbes/faculty.htm Janet Wiegel
http://www.cameron.edu/psych_human_ecology/faculty.html Lorraine Perry

CCU Psy.D. Degree Holders Without Faculty Position:
http://www.state.sc.us/dmh/commission.htm Alison Y. Evans

Scholarly Work by CCU Doctorate Holders:

1. Gerald Ramey: Professor; Fulbright Scholar
http://www.lcsc.edu/business/Staff/GerryR.htm

http://www.lcsc.edu/collegeinfo/nr/nr-Ramey01.htm

 

Hi Ray

How many of these people enrolled in CCU AFTER they gained their position or where it was of no benefit in attaining their position? CCU certainly has both positive and negitive attributes. On the positive side, it was an early pioneer in the field. On the negitive, they remained unaccredited decades after their peers earned it. I think its value in academic circles is probably very low. In business, for positions not requiring a degree, it may have some value. For other positions where the degree is a central requirement they are likely to check out any schools they are unfamiliar with. In that kind of case a CCU degree is likely to be of limited value. I do believe CCU has made some positive changes in the last year or so and I hope they keep that direction.

 

I bet the good folks at CCU really appreciate Ray's, uh, help. It would be a shame if people jumped to the conclusion that CCU was a mill--which it assuredly is not--just because every other school Ray promotes is.

 

There is no way to determine with accuracy how many of those folks hold the positions they do because of their CCU degrees. Just because someone holds a degree from CCU doesn't indicate a cause-and-effect phenomenon, any more than dropping out of Harvard causes one to become Bill Gates.

Here's a simple test: show us examples of people with a CCU master's as their only graduate degree teaching at RA schools. That would indicate clearly that their employers accepted their CCU master's degrees as sufficient to teach.

 

Rich,

The list I have posted here of people who have graduated from CCU are quite impressive. Deep in your heart, I believe you would have to admit to it despite the fact you try so desparately to defend your position regarding RA being superior to DETC. I would invite you to post your CV here for everyone to compare your credentials from the Union Institute and University against the graduates from California Coast University. As Dirty Harry would say, "Go ahead, Make my Day!" or as he also said, "Do you feel lucky P_ _ k!"

 

Some of the schools on that list are unaccredited mills. Holding a faculty position at an unaccredited school really says alot about the utility of your degree doesn't it?

 

Hi Ray,

DETC degrees have lower utility than RA degrees. This is a simple fact. Lists of people boasting CCU degrees does nothing to disprove that fact.

No matter how deep in your little heart you wish for whatever it is that your little heart wishes for, it won't change any reality except for those dear feelings held deeply in your heart. I wish you and your heart all the best all the way down to its deepest of deep deepths of your deep heart.

 

Here We Go Again. RA or No Way

Other posting 3124 times, what makes you an expert? The fact is, it is the same old philosophy here, "RA or No Way". And the fact is that accreditation is a voluntary process and only exists in the United States anyway. It has nothing to do with the quality of the institution.

 

Then if this forum is RA or no way, as you tiresomely lie, why is it one of this forum's most resolute defenders of certain unaccredited schools (that would be me) who is inspired to poetry by you, o my shilly muse?

 

OK, I gotta read that one again!

Long time no see uncle janko

 

Re: Here We Go Again. RA or No Way

Yeah! What janko said goes for me, too... er... you know... minus the poetry and muse part.

I am but one of many who look at it more broadly. If I were to say that anything is "that way or no way," it would be accredited by a USDoE/CHEA-approved agency. Virtually any USDoE/CHEA-approved accreditation is pretty much okay with me. Of course not all schools accredited by USDoE/CHEA-approved agencies are created equal. There's a quality continuum even among those institutions... as well there should be. But at least with accreditation by a USDoE/CHEA-approved agency, there is a certain dead minimum of quality and rigor upon which one may count... and blindly, I might add.

So, with me at least, if anything, it's "USDoE/CHEA or no way," not "RA or no way." And, for me, at least, that would include any institutions or degrees therefrom which are accredited (or endorsed or whatever other word, depending on the country, applies) by other countries's equivalent of USDoE/CHEA or any agency approved for that purpose thereby.

But, in fact, I'm not even that rigid in all cases... especially in the case of certain particularly exceptional institutions -- institutions that have no USDoE/CHEA-approved accreditation but are, nevertheless, objectively rigorous and legitimate. (And, no, Kennedy-Western ain't among 'em!) Of course, identifying such institutions to the satisfaction of all becomes more dfficult... hence the utility of accreditation in the first place.

Northwestern California University School of Law immediately comes to mind. SCUPS, maybe -- at least for certain programs. And other members, here, can name all sorts of others.

So I, for one, am most certainly not "RA or no way."

That said, it simply cannot be argued that in terms of near-univeral acceptance, RA (regional accreditation, for our newbies) by one of the six USDoE/CHEA-approved regional agencies, nationwide, isn't about as good as it gets, generally; and that DETC, generally, is viewed by many as not quite as good... like it or not.

And that, I believe, was Bill Huffman's essential point. Or, who knows... maybe Bill is of the "RA or no way" opinion. Under the circumstances, if one wanted to dispense with all the explanation and gray area and simply wanted to recommend an accreditation that was safe under nearly any circumstances, would he be wrong to just cut to the chase and say, in effect, "RA or no way," which, in his case, would not really mean that DETC and other NA is worthless... just more or less, sorta' compartively so... in a pinch?

Hmm?

 

Re: Here We Go Again. RA or No Way

Dear Deep Heart Ray,

You say things that aren't true. You twist the facts to try and make your points. I'm not an expert but I care about the truth and I listen when the experts do speak. I understand that logic and expert opinion mean far more than feelings deep in your heart, at least when it comes to academic issues.

RA or no way is your lie that you keep placing in the mouth of others. Accreditation being voluntary is part of your degree mill speak. Just part of the same twisting of the facts that you're so fond of. The quality of higher education is best defined by institutions that are accredited. The correlation between high level education with accredited institutions in this country as well as the correlation between unaccredited institutions and degree mills are both extremely high, in direct contradiction to your false assertion.

I suspect the correlation would be about as strong as jumping out of plane with a functioning versus a malfunctioning parachute. You can jump out of the plane with a malfunctioning parachute and wish in your deepest of deep depths of your heart that your chance of landing safely is the same as if you had the good chute. You can even post this statement on a sky jumping web forum. You can feel that it must be true deep down in your deep heart, but chances are you're going to splat.

 

splat

Truly, madly, deeply.

 

As a person not associated with either school, I feel compelled to say this. From what I know, Union is a better school than CCU. Not just has more utility or superior accreditation. Better. And no amount of comparing it's graduates (unfavorably) with handpicked geniuses associated with CCU can change that. CCU is bare-bones correspondence school in the same league as PCDI/Ashworth. Union is RA doctoral-granting university.

How about that?

 

Re: splat

And Timely!!

 

"Desparately"? (sic) This is a typical response. The difference between you and I--besides, of course, that you're in such a state of denial--is that I approach this dispassionately. I would prefer that there was no difference in the utility of degrees from DETC-accredited schools vs. those from RA schools. Still, despite my personal feelings, I feel talking about the facts is more important. You obviously fail in this regard.

Your request regarding my CV doesn't make sense. What are you asking me to do?

The rest of your post is amateurish, adolescent drivel.

 

Re: Here We Go Again. RA or No Way

This is so uninformed, it's laughable.

Tell me, Ray, if accreditation has nothing to do with the quality of an institution, why did CCU pursue it?

In basketball, we call this a "self check."*

*"Self check" is when someone is so bad you don't even have to guard (check) him. He, in essence, checks himself.

 

Re: Re: Here We Go Again. RA or No Way

I swear to God I almost wet myself over that! Props to Unk, of course, but Gregg, that was damn funny!

 

Let us all join in and sing now:

My school is better than your school,
My school is better than your's.
My school is better cause I said its better,
Yes, my school is better than your's.

 

Actually, I would have no problem putting up my experience and credentials against any of those folks. But this isn't a competition, except in Ray's mind.

My academic credentials are listed in my signature. They are joined by more than 25 years in education and training. I'm a retired Air Force officer and have worked in the private sector for the past decade. I've been a campus college chair for UoP, taught at several other universities as an adunct, and spent four years full-time at San Diego State as an assistant professor. I have more than a thousand hours of technical training as an instructor, and have developed and delivered both education and training in the classroom, on computers, and on the Web. Currently, I'm a senior consultant for a systems management consulting firm, and I make about 3 times what an assistant professor makes. Besides UoP and my Air Force career, I've worked for AT&T, The Prudential, Xerox, and Corrections Corporation. Oh, and I'm just 45, so I might do a few other things along the way. Impressive? No. I'm just another guy with a job. But when Ray makes this personal (as shills who can't get their way often do), I fight back.

What does this have to do with the FACT that degrees from DETC-accredited schools have lessened acceptability in academia and in employment? Nothing, but that doesn't stop Ray from bringing me into his pathetic lashing out against reality.