Doctorate in Business--Seeking Advice

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  1. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    I have this, uh, friend, who's interested in pursuing a doctorate in business. He has an MBA, but did his Ph.D. in another field However, his dissertation was related to Human Resources (and how that field deals with a certain education issue). He'd like to do a second dissertation to explore possible operational solutions to the issues raised in the first dissertation. His criteria:

    1. RA or foreign/GAAP only
    2. Short- or non-resident. Can travel for brief periods on campus.
    3. Non-Ph.D. designation (DBA, DBL, DM, etc.)
    4. Could either be dissertation-only or coursework + dissertation; prefer latter
    5. Dissertation options must include practical projects, not just theoretical research
    6. Cost is an issue, but not an over-riding one (can afford 10-15k per year out-of-pocket--no employer reimbursement)
    7. Must be able to do this from the U.S. (East Coast)

    Any assistance/guidance/advice/solutions you might have will be appreciated by my, uh, friend. Thanks.
     
  2. oxpecker

    oxpecker New Member

    I suggest a 12-step program.
     
  3. Mary A

    Mary A Member

    Hey Rich - I have a colleague who is taking a DBA at University of New Castle (Australia). It's a three phase program - courses plus dissertation. He was exempted from year 1 due to his MBA. No residency. Cost for the program @30k US

    He is very pleased with the experience. Can't tell you more than that.

    Mary
     
  4. J. Ayers

    J. Ayers New Member

  5. Ian Anderson

    Ian Anderson Active Member


    Has your friend considered the Ed.D. from NCU. Your friend might be able to negotiate more than 30 units of credit (certain Embry-Riddle graduates get 45 units credit for example).
     
  6. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Re: Re: Doctorate in Business--Seeking Advice

    No, because my friend is seeking a business degree. He has one in education. NCU might be a good choice, depending on the dissertation requirement. But my friend wants a non-Ph.D. designation, which I don't believe NCU offers in business.
     
  7. Ian Anderson

    Ian Anderson Active Member

    Re: Re: Re: Doctorate in Business--Seeking Advice


    A couple more suggestions in the UK. Travel is cheap from East Coast but other expenses are high.

    The Durham DBA appears to require 7 four day periods (28 days) on campus. A very prestigious school (and a very nice campus which I have visited several times to hear concerts). Cost ???????.
    http://www.dur.ac.uk/dbs/teaching/research/dba/durhamprogramme/

    Does the Edinburgh DBA fit your needs?
    Cost about $60,000
    http://www.ebsdba.com/
     
  8. Marylars

    Marylars New Member

    I have a (cough) friend looking for the same type of program. I...I mean she...has come up with the following options so far, but is always looking for others.

    Anderson University (right now this is my first choice)
    DBA - cohort of 8-12 students
    http://www.anderson.edu/falls/dba/overview/design.html
    Only requires 4 weeks a year on campus
    1 in January
    2 in May
    1 in August
    $370/credit hour

    Case Western Reserve
    Executive Doctor of Management
    http://weatherhead.case.edu/edm/
    It looks like you have to be on campus every 3rd weekend

    University of Laverne
    DPA - (I work in the public sector, so this is an option)
    Hybrid Virtual Cluster
    3 weekend 'intensives' per term
    http://www.ulv.edu/cbpm/pa/programs/graduate/dpa_figure.shtml

    Other slim possibilities:

    UMUC
    Doctor of Management
    (not really looking at this one very closely, but it's out there)


    St. Ambrose
    DBA
    www.sau.edu
    Haven't figured out how much time you have to spend on campus,but it's got a really strong HR focus.
     
  9. RFValve

    RFValve Well-Known Member


    The DBA at the University of Southern queensland satisfies the requirements. Only one mandatory week of residence is required and examinations centres are located in the US. The cost is about 25K AUD and can be completed in 4 years part time although it normally takes longer than this if your MBA is not in the area as your DBA.
     
  10. RFValve

    RFValve Well-Known Member

    Re: Re: Re: Re: Doctorate in Business--Seeking Advice

    This is ridiculous expensive for a relative unknown and new DBA. I would go for a more tested DBA with a school like Nova or Argosy for that price, I also undertand that some trips are required so total the price can be more than this.
     
  11. tcnixon

    tcnixon Active Member

    Re: Re: Re: Re: Doctorate in Business--Seeking Advice


    One thing to remember about admission to the Edinburgh DBA that, in addition to the usual education background and work experience, it also requires a publication record. This means journal articles and it wants five of them.

    I don't know if your, uh, friend has that many journal articles. :)



    Tom Nixon
     
  12. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Doctorate in Business--Seeking Advice

    I've looked at the EBS materials in the past, but I never noticed that requirement. Odd for what should be a practitioner's degree. Then, maybe not. Unlike most "taught" degrees (ones with coursework components), EBS expects a regular, full-sized dissertation. They see the DBA as a Ph.D.-plus.
     
  13. Kirkland

    Kirkland Member

    Henley Management College's DBA may be an option. I believe Brunel University issues the degree. Well respected in the UK.

    www.henleymc.ac.uk
     
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    Kirkland Member

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  15. little fauss

    little fauss New Member

    Aren't there a number of UK schools that will award a doctorate based almost exclusively on published work? Look at Jonnie's (sp?) DL page, you might find good info there.
     
  16. agilham

    agilham New Member

    Re: Re: Doctorate in Business--Seeking Advice

    Not unless you're a member of staff at the university in question.

    The PhD by published work is pretty much exclusively reserved for members of staff appointed before the requirement for a PhD became universal or who ran into problems with the PhD they were registered upon after their appointment.

    Besides, Rich's, uh, friend would prefer a DBA or DM, not a PhD.

    Staying in the UK, both Aston and Manchester have DL DBAs that are AACSB accredited, although Manchester is well on the pricey side, especially at the current dollar-sterling rate.

    http://www.mbs-worldwide.ac.uk/programmes/dba/default.asp
    http://www.abs.aston.ac.uk/newweb/programmes/RDP/dba/

    Angela
     
  17. little fauss

    little fauss New Member

    Re: Re: Re: Doctorate in Business--Seeking Advice

    Thanks for the clarification.

    I've looked into the Aston program myself, spoken with an individual in administration, and come away very impressed. They offer both a DBA and a PhD in business with minimal residencies. The fact that they're AACSB-accredited and also considered one of the best research universities in the world doesn't hurt, either.

    I wonder why the poster's "friend" would be uninterested in a PhD? It's certainly the degree more likely to open roads into academia here in the U.S. Does it look bad to have two PhDs? Is that the rationale of his "friend"?
     
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  18. DTechBA

    DTechBA New Member

    Another PhD necessary

    I have seen where a legitimate school awards a doctorate based on published works it is to people who already have another PhD. The University of the Free State in SA seems to have such a program.

    http://www.uovs.ac.za/container.php?faculties_id=06&origin=FAKUL_TMPL&code4_id=0650&code=LPROGR&lpcode_id=06900
     
  19. oxpecker

    oxpecker New Member

    V R Y S T A A A A T ! ! !

    (Sorry, I can't resist.)
     
  20. agilham

    agilham New Member

    Re: Re: Re: Re: Doctorate in Business--Seeking Advice

    Much though I think Aston is a decent university, I wouldn't stick it in that kind of company.

    Manchester, on the other hand, definitely aspires to that kind of realm. Much of the rationale for the merger with UMIST is about creating a university that can provide serious competition in the UK for the "Golden Triangle" of Oxford, Cambridge, London (where London is UCL, Imperial and LSE).

    Angela
     

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