California Coast University Transfer Credits

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  1. Guest

    Guest Guest

    According to the Winter 2000-2001 issue of "Coastline," the newsletter published by CCU, the following schools have accepted CCU credits for transfer (partial list):

    City University of New York
    Mercer University
    Northern Kentucky University
    U of Massachusetts
    U of NC
    Union Graduate School
    Vermont College of Norwich U
    Walden University

    Also, the following have granted pay raises or promotions to employees AFTER they received their CCU degree (partial list):

    Bryant College
    Central Texas College
    Chicago State University
    North Carolina Central University
    Penn State University
    The Union Institute (WOW!)
    U of Cal-San Diego
    U of Missouri

    Interesting!

    Russell
     
  2. EllisZ

    EllisZ Member

    While the top half of your list is significant (credit transfers), the bottom half is not. There are too many other factors that could come in to play when a company decides to give an employee a promotion. I doubt that these folks were given promotions based entirely on their CCU degree. (In much the same way as I wouldn't be given a promotion based entirely on my RA degrees.)

    I would be interested in hearing more about the credit transfers though.
     
  3. Byran Lee

    Byran Lee member

    Hi Russell,

    I, too, noticed what you've mentioned. Take a look at the other thread I've started awhile back, titled: "CCU credits for transfer."

    Actually, I believe CCU is a legitmate school. I'm happy to see their credits being accepted at other RA universities.... (case by case maybe??)

    I wonder if we have any CCU grads here who can confirm that their credits are accepted at the RA's.

    Byran
     
  4. Chip

    Chip Administrator

    Ya know, this is one of those difficult things. I suspect that we are dealing with individual, case-by-case situations, rather than wholesale policies of the schools mentioned... and keep in mind that it's not uncommon for a school to quietly award credits for work done even if they have no formal portfolio program, so it's not even that amazing, unless, for example, there are a half dozen people from each school spread among different departments.

    Snell at Monticello used to widely claim that Monticello credits had been accepted by a number of RA schools... and it is possible that a few schools goofed and accepted them.

    While I don't share the belief of some others that Cal Coast is a mill, I also don't believe that they are, in general, up to the quality standards of the typical RA school. But there are always folks who give 110% when 50% will do, and these folks are probably doing work worthy of transfer to an RA program... so I'm not condemning the practice either.

    Overall, I still hold the opinion that, in nearly 100% of circumstances, an RA degree will better serve an individual's long-term needs than any unaccredited or DETC accredited degree.
     
  5. Frangop

    Frangop New Member

    I too am happy to see CCU's credits being accepted at other RA universities.

    I strongly believe that Calcoast are a very ethical and professional institution.

    CFr
     
  6. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    I don't know. I think Chip has it right. After all, CCU has been around for more than 25 years. Of course there's going to be a few exceptions over that period of time regarding transfer of credits. I have no doubt the schools listed reflect anecdotal events rather than institutional policies. CCU has never even been a candidate for accreditation by any recognized accreditor. Never. While it was inconceivable back then for a school like that to get accredited, it is well within the realm of possibility today. But I suspect two things: they are not accreditable and they don't need/want accreditation.

    CCU is what it is, and has been just that and only that for a very long time. Nothing has changed, yet the faux analyses continue. And if you took a CCU bachelor's degree to 100 traditional and accredited graduate schools and found even 3 that would admit you on the basis of it (not despite it, but because of it), I would be freakin' shocked. [​IMG]

    Rich Douglas, who still likes CCU.
     
  7. EllisZ

    EllisZ Member

    I wonder how much has to do with "wanting" to get accredited vs. the actual cost involved to do so.

    There is no doubt that obtaining RA is a very long and very expensive process. Certainly they would have bo change their programs somewhat (all schools seeking RA do). They would have to add a residency component for doctoral work.

    After all is done and they have RA then what next? They would have to raise their tuition to cover costs incurred and to try and recover their investment. Once they raise their rates they are in the same price range as other RA schools and now have a much broader field of competition.

    I have no doubt that seeking RA is a high-risk investment for this school. I would guess that the ROI for the school's stakeholders is several years and I have to wonder if they would lose some of their core customers (California residents?) in the process.

    While I would LOVE to see them attempt to obtain RA I can see some valid reasons why they might not wish to.
     

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