TUI or just TU?

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Should TUI drop "International" from its name?

  1. Yes

    32 vote(s)
    88.9%
  2. No

    4 vote(s)
    11.1%
  1. Casey

    Casey New Member

    I kind of like the programs offered by Touro University International. However, I wish they would drop "International" from the school name. I think plain old Touro College or Touro University would sound much better. It's not a huge deal, but I am curious to see what others think.
     
  2. stock

    stock New Member

    good idea !
     
  3. oko

    oko New Member

    I have always thought the "International" was not highlighted and may not appear in their document untill I saw their transcript. I think most universities are international any way.

    The few college catalogs I have seen with TUI alumni or doctoral candidacies in them tends to leave out the "International". Either way it does not bother me but if I have a choice, I would prefer leaving the "Int" out.

    Send a note to the school and possibly the parent campus in New York.

    The University of New Orleans changed its name from Lousiana State University at New Orleans based on students insistence.

    Oko
     
  4. RFValve

    RFValve Well-Known Member

    Too many degree mills use the name "International" in their names.
     
  5. Eli

    Eli New Member

    I prefer the name Touro University.

    Eli
     
  6. That is correct, in this time, the majority of the universities are International, and an exceptionally many young North Americans are studying in Latin America and the Caribe, because the cost is little Low.

    Touro need to eliminate the international thing, because is true that people of different parts of the world are studying in that place, but they cannot study in their mother Language.

    If a university is going to use the International thing in their name, I think they have to offer all the courses (BA, MA, and PhD) in different languages. (Maybe English, Spanish, Chinese, Japanese)
     
  7. Arch23

    Arch23 New Member

    They should just use Touro College or change the name of the entire school (beginning with their main campus in New York) to "Touro University" and spare their online learners the stigma attached to earning one's degree from an internet school.

    They may address their internet site as their "virtual campus" (which is what many B&M universities such as Florida Tech do, anyway) and have all their diplomas come from Touro College (or the renamed/updated "Touro University") in New York and make no distinction on the transcript and diploma as to the mode in which the courses were studied.

    I'm sure that they'll get more enrollees this way, plus this would give their main and sister campuses more recognition since people from all over will now learn about the school as a whole, rather than just the online programs.
     
  8. Fortunato

    Fortunato Member

    But isn't TUI moving to become separately accredited from Touro College? Wouldn't that make them a separate school in most people's eyes?
     
  9. Arch23

    Arch23 New Member

    <But isn't TUI moving to become separately accredited from Touro College? Wouldn't that make them a separate school in most people's eyes?>

    Yeah, which, I think, is why they're getting all these accreditation-related problems.

    I think that the administration, instead of pushing for separate accreditation for TUI and treating it as a separate entity, should just work on getting approval for the main campus in New York to offer doctoral-level distance learning programs, so that all degrees come from Touro College. This will remove the lengthy explanations as to how a "university" could be a branch of a "college," how TUI is the online counterpart of Touro College, etc., etc.

    They could have made everyone's lives easier if they had just elevated the parent campus to university status and introduced their online programs as one of that university's many offerings.
     
  10. Eli

    Eli New Member

    What accreditation problems? It is merely a transfer of accreditation from one accrediting body to the other which, by the way, is going very smoothly and on schedule. It is a positive step to attain independence.

    Eli


     
  11. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Well, hopefully. But two problems, at least, exist. First, Touro University International was never accredited on its own, initially. They were brought in the back door by Touro College when the Middle States agreed to include TUI in TC's accreditation. John Bear reported the Middle States official's surprise when she found out Middle States had just accredited the first 100% online Ph.D. in the U.S.! I can't help but think that's part of all of this. (Middle States has yet to accredit another, BTW.)

    The second problem is WASC. No friend of nontraditional schools, WASC has not accredited a non-residential doctorate-granting school, and it has had dozens in its jurisdiction to choose from. UoP (which, at the time, wasn't granting doctorates) moved to Arizona to get away from WASC. SCUPS created Northcentral University for the same purposes. Will WASC go ahead and accredit a 100% non-residental school offering the doctorate? Perhaps. But there isn't any reason to think it is a slam dunk.

    I don't think "transferring accreditation" from one RA to another is exactly what is going on here. Plus, there are the issues of whether or not TUI can put together a sufficient administrative organization (instead of relying on TC's). Oh, then there's the money, probably the largest consideration in accreditation. Where's it going to come from? How is TUI capitalized? Do they have the ability to raise funds? Are they going to be incorporated separately, or perhaps they already are? If so, how will WAS react to a for-profit, non-residential school awarding doctoral degrees?

    Perhaps taking it all on faith is a reasonable approach, especially, if (a) you have a vested interest in the outcome and (b) you have no control over the outcome. And perhaps all of these questions (and whatever other issues are out there) have already been addressed. Perhaps all of this is moot and WASC is getting ready to grant candidacy, or even full accreditation. I guess we'll see.
     
  12. Casey

    Casey New Member

    I think you're right. But in that case, they could just drop the International and become Touro University.

    I like the other idea, though. I would like to see them move to NY, remain MSA accredited, change their name to Touro College, and share a website with the main campus.
     

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