There are many issues with transferring credit between RA collages and universities. Wile it's easier to transfer RA-to-RA credit there is no guaranty that all the classes will be accepted even if the degree program is in similar discipline. Undergraduate credit transfers is less painful than Graduate credit transfer. From experience I can tell that Cal State credits didn't transfer to a RA privet university, well only 15 % in case of friends wife. So when we read on difficulties of DETC or other NA credit transfers I want to add that RA to RA is also an issue. Changing colleges may be not very pleasant experience. And one more comment RA is the gold standard in USA but not all RA schools created equal nor treated equal. Collage name recognition, history and academic standing is as important. Learner.
Probably not as important as the simple fact that different universitites have different sets of rules when it comes to allowing transfer credit. Many schools place very strict limits on the amount of transfer credit that they will accept. Others place those limits in categories. While a school may accept RA community college credit -- it can for example limit that acceptance to 60 hours max. (or more or less) Many schools also limit the amount of credit by non-traditional methods. Some have very strict CLEP acceptance policies for example. While they may accept certain subject tests, they may deny others. The school I am at doesn't accept DANTES subject exams or CLEP general exams at all. They will accept some CLEP subjects. My Biology 101 (intro non-major biology) course from RA Coker College transferred to this school with no lab. Several technical courses from a community college transferred here even though they have no bearing on my program. Some credits transferred with the provision that I verify my knowledge by taking the next advanced course in that subject. It is entirely a matter of institutional policy and an issue that anyone consdering transfer of credit should look into. This is one of the key issues that make the Big Three so important to DL -- they are very generous when transferring credit into a degree program.
I agree with the Coach in this matter. The acceptance of credits in transfer depends primarily on the degree to which the course taken resembles the course required. It is not a matter of public vs. private as Lerner has suggested. Lerner has stated that not all RA schools are created equal. I would respond by saying that Lerner has a keen eye for the obvious but that his observation has nothing to do with the transfer of credits from one RA school to another RA school. If school "A" requires that you learn ABC as a part of your degree program and then you transfer to school "B" which requires that you learn ABX as a part of the "same" degree program, you can not necessarily criticize either school if all credits do not transfer. Jack
Well my friends vife was earning teaching credential at Cal State Univ - LB She then tried to transfer to National University teaching credential program because the exelerated format of one class a month. She had 85% completed at CSULB. Natinal University wanted her to start from almost beginning. In previus post I tried to make 2 points. A. many people talk about NA to RA transfer, but what I say is not all RA schools are equal. This is why on resume one can't just write XX Degree from RA school. An employer wants to know the name of the school. Fast completion may be an obsticle to better quality education and degree. Fast food, fast degrees
Teachning credentials (Education) is one of those areas that you can expect to have a challenge when it comes to transferring credit from anywhere. Programs are vastly different from school-to-school. Even within the same system of publics, there is a very wide range of practices. Want to see a real "start over" mentality? Try transferring applied music or applied art somewhere. So, there are a couple of issues at play here. 1) the credit must be applicable to the degree program. If you took liberal arts math at CalState and Univ. of Arkansas requires Calc and Trig -- then you won't get transferability of the liberal arts math class. 2) local policy. If CalState only accepts 60 hours of transfer from community colleges (RA or otherwise) and you have 100 hours -- you get to drop those other 40 hours. 3) Level: this one seems to confuse some people but it's not that hard really. Some courses are taught at a level equal to the skills and knowledge of young freshmen. Some courses are taught at a level requiring much more skill and effort. Both may have the same name (Poetry for example) but have required very different levels of skill. I have a course on my transcript with the title Poetry. There is a course of the same title offered where I am now. In the one that I took we wrote poetry - much poetry. In the one offered here by that name, they read it. Very different indeed. As a degree requirement - they are not equal. 4) Departmental requirements: In many schools, certain departments require that a specific percentage of the major work be completed at their school under their professors. Harvard does this. Many others do as well. It matters very little whether you already have 200 upper level credits in that subject. You take it at their school or they don't issue the degree. Music, Art, Theater, Creative Writing, Education... they are known to be this way. So, the bottom line is this. If I go to Harvard and take liberal arts math and then I go to Yale and take 4 semesters of Russian; I have learned some cool stuff from some great people. It won't transfer into the small public tier 4 college I attend as meeting my degree requirements though. You see, I need Algebra/Trig and Russian isn't one of my language choices here. The lesson in this thread -- read the degree requirements wherever you want to attend. Even our friends at Excelsior College (known to be exceedingly liberal in credit granting) won't transfer in some RA courses - as I understand, physical activity courses for example. My PE121 Swimming class is not something I can use in a degree at Excelsior. Not even after having taught it for 4 semesters... Fact remains -- it is generally far easier to transfer RA credit to an RA school than to transfer NA/State Approved/ UnAccred. credit to an RA school. The recognition of the school is not nearly as important as some other factors. It would be pretty safe to say that every college is different. The difference may not matter to you in the slightest -- or it could be very significant. It really depends on the student as well and every student is different.
It may or it may not. It really depends on individual circumstances. A 19 year old recent high school graduate entering college can expect to spend 4-5 years earning a BA from Harvard or Yale (each very well thought of universities in most circles). Should that student decide to attend East Podunk State University, he will spend only 4-5 years earning a BA. When we address the needs of older students we have to factor in experience and prior learning. The fast BA examples really don't show how someone with no prior learning at all can get a degree in 4 weeks. It assumes that adults have varied past educational experiences which can be validated quicky and simply by standardized testing such as that offered by CLEP/DANTES. That I can take and pass the CLEP/DANTES Business Law exam doesn't imply that I learned the subject quickly (fast). I learned Business Law over a long period and through a variety of means. In reality, that was a 15 year class with a standardized final exam. Fast completion then doesn't mean poor quality. It doesn't even mean fast completion. There has been of late much discussion about the acceptability of DL in the marketplace. Some of that discussion is indeed valid. Some schools are in fact sub-standard. Consider though, check the web pages of your favorite top 50 university. Do they offer any DL courses? How about DL degrees? Most do and those that don't will very shortly. It is in fact the way things will go -- whether we or employers like it or not.
