Ranking DL PhD's

Discussion in 'General Distance Learning Discussions' started by Manda, Jun 5, 2001.

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  1. Manda

    Manda New Member

    Anyone want to take a shot....
    Here are the one's I know of. Also is there a school seeking accredidation of Calf. and what is the status.

    Note - not a ranking just a list

    Touro
    Capell
    Nova
    Sarasotoa
    Walden
    Union
    Fielding
    University of Phoniex
     
  2. Ike

    Ike New Member

    I have done only a little research on DL and therefore I am not qualified to rank these schools. Peolpe who have either been in DL business for a long time or have conducted serious research on DL are more qualified to rank these schools.

    Ike
     
  3. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator

    All solid schools, but if I can nitpick for a second...Phoenix doesn't offer a Ph.D., rather a Doctor of Management (D.M.) degree. I'm not sure if that matters to you, but it does to some people.

    For flexibility, Touro is probably the best bet.

    Bruce
     
  4. rbourg

    rbourg New Member

    If reputation and academic acceptance are what counts, would't Nova, Union, Saybrook and Fielding be considered "tier one" and the rest "tier two"?
     
  5. Tom Head

    Tom Head New Member

    If I were ranking solely by prestige, something I'm not qualified to judge and don't ordinarily care about, I would go with:


    Tier one:
    Fielding
    Saybrook

    Tier two:
    Capella
    Nova
    Touro
    Union
    Walden

    Tier three:
    Phoenix
    Sarasota


    Peace,

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    Tom Head
    www.tomhead.net
     
  6. Tom Head

    Tom Head New Member

    You might be thinking of Northcentral University in Prescott, Arizona; the California thing would be that it's been often associated with the Southern California University for Professional Studies, a California-approved school that (to the best of my knowledge) is not seeking regional accreditation. NCU is a candidate for regional accreditation through the North Central Association.

    Good luck!


    Peace,

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    Tom Head
    www.tomhead.net
     
  7. Ike

    Ike New Member

    Hi Tom,

    I totally disagree with your ranking. Nova and Union should be in tier one. How could you group Nova and Union with schools that are not even ranked by US News and World Report? Besides, Nova and Union enjoy better acceptance in the academia and Corporate America than the schools in your tier two ranking. Please do a GOOGLE search of "Nova Ph.D.", "Nova DBA" and "Nova Ed.D." if you are interested in knowing how Nova Ph.Ds have faired in both academia and the corporate world. Once again, I strongly believe that your ranking is not a fair one.

    Ike
     
  8. David Yamada

    David Yamada New Member

    Assuming there is a God or higher being, I ask him/her/it to give us the power to hold off on offering rankings like the ones that are driving so much of residential higher education.

    Let's strive for quality in DL, and let's try to develop standards for evaluating and measuring that quality. But to rank such disparate institutions is, in my opinion, a less-than-constructive exercise. Can one really compare, for example, the very course-structured, Internet-based Ph.D. programs of Capella with the more flexible, less high-tech Ph.D. programs of Union? Of course not. And as far as I'm concerned, that variety is good and healthy and provides people with some choices.
     
  9. BillDayson

    BillDayson New Member

    Once again I find myself agreeing with David.

    I've always been skeptical of ranking doctoral programs. If you try to do it on a school by school basis, it's almost meaningless. Saybrook doesn't even offer the same subjects as Phoenix, so which one is better than the other would depend on whether you were interested in humanistic psychology or management.

    It makes more sense to do it on a department by department level, but the same problems recur on a smaller scale. Not every department is strong in the same specialties. Which department is better would depend on what you want to specialize in. Even within specialties there are different approaches and schools of thought.

    Ultimately it gets down to an almost personal fit, I think. And one size does not fit all.
     
  10. Lewchuk

    Lewchuk member

    Tom
    Yea, you have sinned against Ike by suggesting that Nova cannot compare with Harvard!!


     
  11. Jack Tracey

    Jack Tracey New Member

    Ike - I won't argue the prestige/ranking question as it seems too subjective, but one reason that the Saybrook/Fielding PhD's don't show up much on the academic/business radar screens is because the majority of the people recieving them are into the Humans Serices and Psychotherapy fields. They're in private practice, etc. not looking for Fortune 500 jobs.
    Jack
     
  12. Tom Head

    Tom Head New Member

    Well, gosh. Apologies to Ike Okonkwo, David Yamada, and Bill Dayson for posting my heavily disclaimed, personal three-tier prestige ranking upon request. I'm glad we don't review music here, or I'd really be in trouble.


    Peace,

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    Tom Head
    www.tomhead.net
     
  13. David Yamada

    David Yamada New Member

    Tom, please don't take it personally! I was reacting to the concept of ranking DL institutions in general, not to your efforts in particular.
     
  14. BillDayson

    BillDayson New Member

    Hi, Ike. While I'm not disagreeing with your gallant defense of Nova's honor, I do want to say that the USNews rankings are for undergraduate programs. Graduate schools without significant numbers of undergraduates aren't even included.

    Rockefeller University and UC San Francisco are prominent examples. Both have managed to produce Nobel prize winners but no USNews ranking.
     
  15. MarcAxelrod

    MarcAxelrod New Member

     
  16. MarcAxelrod

    MarcAxelrod New Member

    Is there anyone who has studied at the University of Bristol or London Bible College or who knows of their academic qualities and reputation?
     
  17. rbourg

    rbourg New Member

    Many years ago, perhaps fifteen or more, I seem to remember one edition of Bear's Guide ranking both RA accredited, candidates for RA accreditation, and unaccredited schools.It would be interesting to review that list to see what has become of those various institutions today.
     
  18. Ike

    Ike New Member

    USNews also ranks graduate schools. Nova Medical School and Law School have been ranked high by the magazine. These two programs are residential programs but the schools that run the programs are integral part Nova Southeastern University.

    Ike
     
  19. Ike

    Ike New Member

    Lewchuk,

    Nova is not Harvard and if Nova cannot compare with Harvard, she is not alone, and that does not bother me. Thousands of other schools here and in other countries cannot compare with Harvard.

    Ike
     
  20. CLSeibel

    CLSeibel Member

    Hey, Marc! Though I have not studied at either of these institutions (I am a student of Spurgeon's College in London), I am quite familiar with both of them. Both are excellent schools that enjoy much respect globally. I would be pleased to share what I know about these schools with you. However, I would prefer to respond to specific questions; so, let me know what you're interested in finding out. I would be pleased to try to help you learn more.
     

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