Rose Donatelli Claims her Fake Degree Isn't Fake

The regulars might remember the story of Rose Venneri Donatelli, who was reported by the local paper in St. Catherine's, Ontario to have a fake Ph.D. from La Salle in Louisiana along with two other degrees that police were reportedly unable to verify.

This woman has been pestering near-incessantly that we "remove her site from the internet" and I get the impression she's a complete Web incompetent. She claims that "the charges were withdrawn" and she intermittently moves between threats to sue us into oblivion and begging that we "be decent" and remove her information.

I've offered numerous times that we would happily update the thread in question (which is so old it's no longer in anyone's view) if she would email or fax *ANYTHING* that shows that the St. Catherine's Standard was wrong in its reporting, that the charges were withdrawn, that she does have the degrees in question... anything like that... but nothing has been forthcoming and she says it's my job to find the info.

I personally don't have the time to search out to try to find out if, in fact, her story is true. So she is either a good con artist or too incompetent to find any references online to her claim that the charges were withdrawn.

If anyone is feeling diligent, I'd appreciate it if someone could do some digging and see if there's any evidence anywhere as to what the disposition of this case actually was.

The links to the relevant threads on degreeinfo are


http://forums.degreeinfo.com/showthread.php?threadid=2620

and
http://forums.degreeinfo.com/showthread.php?threadid=15267

Any information will be helpful and could be entertaining

Thanks

Chip

 

This apparent fraud has 2 hits on google. DegreeInfo and the paper that Chip refers to. Here's the tidbit in the paper.

I'll try doing some more searches but this alleged academic fraud Rose Donatelli is a known chucklehead.

 

Google on "Rose Donatelli" pulls up only 5 things. Most couldn't be our alleged academic fraud, the most interesting hit (but still uninteresting) was the following.

I note that it doesn't call her an academic fraud.

 

This details what Progress Place does.

http://www.progressplace.org/button10.htm

 

Hmmmm

So far, it would seem that no one has had any success in tracking down the outcome of the case... This, combined with Rose's complete inability to provide any evidence either to John or to us indicating her innocence, might lead one to believe that the woman doth protest too much...

Of course, I would still love it if anyone has the time to either contact the St. Catherine's Standard or call the court in question... I'd do it myself, but just too busy at the moment.

 

I found a document on the web that supports Rose Donatelli's position.

Here's a link to the proof.

 

Tom Nixon

 

Getting a degree (for a regulated profession such as psychiatry) from a mill is morally wrong in my view... you just can't go around telling people you are a therapist when you're not!

I'd be interested in knowing about anyone accused of such a fraud with a degree (doctorate) in organizational psychology. Say if you're consulting a MNC or a local organization for instance. I am sure there must be dozens of examples of such people who just happen to avoid radar by entering gray areas (ie unregulated professions)...

 

Lookey what I found:

Case Law Update: Liberty Mutual et al v. Donatelli et al., WeirFoulds

 

NMTTD; now, there is a good reason to revive an ancient thread....new information, which is always appreciated.

You are learning, young Padawan. :cool2:

 

So if I'm reading the citation correctly, it's saying Liberty Mutual sued Ms. Donatelli for psychological services it had previously paid her for in connection with its insured patients, after it was found that Ms. Donatelli wasn't a licensed psychologist. And it appears that Ms. Donatelli never properly responded to discovery or other aspects of the suit, and Liberty Mutual was awarded costs.

What I don't see is anything saying that Liberty Mutual actually won the case, other than getting costs. And Ms. Donatelli countersued, claiming defamation, based on some rather dense article of law, but that countersuit was dismissed.

It seems like a very odd case. It would be interested to read the actual filings to see what went on. It also seems like Ms. Donatelli may not be playing with a full deck.

This is also interesting because at some point, I got an email from someone who claimed to be a paralegal working in some capacity on some legal matter having to do with Donatelli. He was cryptic about what his role was, but said that it was clear she had no credentials. My guess is this guy was probably working for Liberty Mutual and found our references to her situation.

 

FWIW: These 2 are minor stuff -disposition of appeals.

CanLII - 2012 CanLII 25156 (SCC)
CanLII - 2011 ONCA 643 (CanLII)


And this one... 5 separate filings, whole case is available here: http://www.canlii.org/eliisa/search.do?language=en&searchTitle=Ontario&sortOrder=relevance&searchPage=eliisa%2FjurisdictionSearch.vm&jurisdiction=on&text=Rose+donatelli&id=&startDate=&endDate=&legislation=legislation&caselaw=courts&boardTribunal=tribunals

Interesting read, to say the least.

Johann

 

Summary - as best I can:

Criminal charges filed.
Criminal charges dropped.
Civil suit filed by Liberty Mutual- about $31 K
Dispute and Counterclaim (defamation) filed by defendants - $12,500,000

Motions re: payment of costs and appeals to them appear to have been going on since around 2003! Looks like claim and counterclaim are still left to be dealt with by the courts. Who knows when or where this ends?

Johann

 

Holy thread necromancy, Batman! An eight year old thread!

 

Indeed it is, young Robin -- and I think you'll be drawing your Bat-Pension before this case actually gets heard! :jester:

Johann

 

Yes, and all during that time she'll be earning money, saving up so that when the hammer drops she'll just skip to some other country and start all over again.
:headbang:

 

A shame the Crown withdrew the charges, but unfortunately that happens more than it should.

 

Yes - She appears to be earning money, all right. I have no idea what she'll do if the hammer does ever drop (c'mon you hammer!) Who knows - she might plead impecuniosity (no $), as she did when it came to the demands for court costs. See the case documents I cited.

Say, why don't I give her a free ad? Don't think she can sue anyone for that,can she? :jester:

She appears to be here, operating a travel agency, in the same building where her son has his chiropractic clinic. ...And yes, he's a real chiropractor, as far as I know.

CREATIVE TRAVEL Venneri Rose Owner
125 Welland Ave St Catharines ON L2R 2N5


Johann

BTW - I lived in that town some 30 years ago, about six blocks from that building.