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    Matt Murphy is offline Registered User
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    Univ of State of New York (Excelsior

    Hey folks-

    I see some of you on this board use "University of the State of New York" for a degree from Excelsior...do you do this on a resume? Would it be considered illegal or stupid if I put "University of the State of New York" on my resume...heck..it sounds a lot better than Excelsior College...

    I've read Lawrie Miller's section on his web site and it didn't really give any information on this.

    Thanks in advance,

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    Originally posted by Matt Murphy
    I see some of you on this board use "University of the State of New York" for a degree from Excelsior...do you do this on a resume? Would it be considered illegal or stupid if I put "University of the State of New York" on my resume...heck..it sounds a lot better than Excelsior College...
    It's not illegal. But I do consider it stupid.

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    Re: Univ of State of New York (Excelsior

    Originally posted by Matt Murphy
    Hey folks-

    I see some of you on this board use "University of the State of New York" for a degree from Excelsior...do you do this on a resume? Would it be considered illegal or stupid if I put "University of the State of New York" on my resume...heck..it sounds a lot better than Excelsior College...

    I've read Lawrie Miller's section on his web site and it didn't really give any information on this.

    Thanks in advance,
    If you're living in NY or even the Northeast I wouldn't.

    If you live in California or somewhere else far away from NY, I suppose it wouldn't matter, but if anyone looks at their website you will see no reference to "University of the State of New York", so it will just confuse things.

    My advice - don't bother. While many seem to be stuck on the name it ultimately doesn't matter, and it'd be about a 10 second conversation in a job interview.

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    Mark
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    Re: Re: Univ of State of New York (Excelsior

    Originally posted by guitarmark2000
    ..........but if anyone looks at their website you will see no reference to "University of the State of New York", so it will just confuse things....................
    You make a very good point. I had been using USNY on my resume because that is what is on my diploma. However trying to find USNY on the web is time consuming so from now on I have changed to Excelsior. (I have no objection to this name and have come across far worse names.)
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    Lightbulb College name

    Sounds like you're worried about Excelsior college strange name as I was at one time. Anyway, I now just use Excelsior college on my resume or just leave the name of the college off my resume. I've heard of stranger names of colleges that would give Excelsior a run for it's money.
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    Excelsior College was founded in 1971 as Regents College, a part of the University of the State of New York. Graduates of Regents College had the name "University of the State of New York" on their diplomas.

    Some years ago, Regents split off from USNY to become a private institution and later changed its name to Excelsior. Those who receive degrees after this time really should not list their degrees as "University of the State of New York", since that is not what is on their diplomas.

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    If you were to order transcripts today, would they read Excelsior or USNY?

    I think this could be real show stopper if someone in human resources who is reviewing your resume sees Excelsior and compares them to recent transcripts that read USNY. If this person wasn't familiar with the college's history , they may think you are lying on your resume.

    Are there any HR types out there that could comment on this question?

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    Originally posted by PhD2B
    If you were to order transcripts today, would they read Excelsior or USNY?

    I completed my Excelsior degree when it was USNY-Regents College. I've seen recent official copies of my transcript and they now say Excelsior.

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    Originally posted by Anthony Pina
    Some years ago, Regents split off from USNY to become a private institution and later changed its name to Excelsior. Those who receive degrees after this time really should not list their degrees as "University of the State of New York", since that is not what is on their diplomas.

    Tony Pina
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    My 2002 Excelsior diploma reads:

    Excelsior College
    Member of the University of the State of New York

    On the recommendation of the Faculty and by virtue of the authority vested in them by the regents of the Regents of the University of the State of New York[...]
    I've never had a problem with the name, and my resume cites "Excelsior College". I suppose, given the diploma, that you could get away with "Excelsior College, University of the State of New York" if you really felt strongly about it.

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    Originally posted by alarmingidea


    My 2002 Excelsior diploma reads:



    I've never had a problem with the name, and my resume cites "Excelsior College". I suppose, given the diploma, that you could get away with "Excelsior College, University of the State of New York" if you really felt strongly about it.
    Thank you for this information. I stand corrected.

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    http://usny.nysed.gov/aboutusny.html


    Who We Are

    The University of the State of New York (USNY) is the most complete, interconnected system of educational services in the United States. USNY includes:

    More than 7,000 public and private elementary and secondary schools;
    248 public and private colleges and universities;
    251 proprietary (for-profit) schools;
    Nearly 7,000 libraries;
    750 museums;
    The State Archives;
    Vocational rehabilitation and other services for adults with disabilities;
    Special education services for pre-school and school-age children and teenagers;
    A special School for the Blind;
    A special School for the Deaf;
    25 public broadcasting facilities, including seven public television stations;
    More than half a million professionals practicing in 38 licensed professions, including pharmacy , architecture, accounting , and nursing ; and
    200,000 certified public school teachers , counselors, and administrators.

    Who We Are Not

    The University of the State of New York (USNY) is not the same as The State University of New York (SUNY). SUNY is the State's system of public colleges and universities. While the SUNY system is part of the 248 colleges and universities included in The University of the State of New York, SUNY is a separate and distinct organization with its own administration.


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    Cool

    Hmmm, so theoretically, a resume could read "Binghamton University, State University of New York, University of the State of New York". :D :D :D

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    Re: Univ of State of New York (Excelsior

    Originally posted by Matt Murphy
    Hey folks-

    I see some of you on this board use "University of the State of New York" for a degree from Excelsior...do you do this on a resume? Would it be considered illegal or stupid if I put "University of the State of New York" on my resume...heck..it sounds a lot better than Excelsior College...

    I've read Lawrie Miller's section on his web site and it didn't really give any information on this.

    Thanks in advance,
    Certainly, if your degree was conferred by Excelsior, then you could not say you were a graduate of USNY. Those who use the label here, ARE graduates of USNY. I am a graduate of the University of the State of New York, and so is every graduate who earned a degree through Regents College prior to May 1998.

    An Excelsior College graduate, could, if they chose, use the adornment -

    BA 2004 Excelsior College (Member of the University of the State of New York)

    or some such, I suppose. Accurate if misleading.


    Note that this issue has been discussed in BA in 4 Weeks, "Lawrie's Q&A", several times, I believe. Also appears in the BA in 4 Weeks Knowledge Base, Page 9, second entry.

    See

    http://bain4weeks.com/distance-learn...edgebase9.html

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    Lawrie Miller;

    Do not forget, that regional and national endorsement is a wide-ranging object. The real gold standard is the professional accreditation.

    For us, the attorney’s, predominantly an authoritative profession in the humankind, the gold bars standard in U.S. is A.B.A. no regional or national.

    The regional and national are too general.

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