Australian Doctorates vs. Australian Advanced Doctorates?

I was going through my files today, and ran across something someone sent me in 1999 pertaining to Australian qualifications; this fellow made a distinction between Australian Ph.D.'s and Australian advanced doctorates, described as "high quality Ph.D.'s, usually."

I suppose my question is: How can I tell a normal Ph.D. from an advanced Ph.D.,
assuming there's a difference?

Thanks for any leads!

Peace,

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Tom Head
www.tomhead.net

 

A PhD is a PhD - there ain't no Ph*****g advanced PhD's except maybe from Uniasia or St Clements, and you'll have to contact Vice Chancellor Dr George Brown for details of those ;-)

Peter French
just a simple old double Masters (Brown won't admit me!)

 

Some Australian schools do award advanced doctorates but they are not advanced Ph.D.s. THey are such degrees as the Sc.D. -- Doctor of Science. You can do a search at teh University of Western Sydney site http://www.uws.edu.au and find these degrees and what is required. You typically must first hold a Ph.D. to be qualified.

In the U.S. the Sc.D. is typically not considered a higher doctorate. Nova used to award the Sc.D. in its doctoral computer related fields but changed to the Ph.D. in 1994. When I enrolled in Nova I was in the Sc.D. program, when graduation neared in 1994 we were offered a choice between the Ph.D. and Sc.D. most students chose the Ph.D. and as near as I can tell all of the NSU faculty who had Sc.D. degrees were able to get a Ph.D. The accreditors obviously did not seem to have a problem with this.

John

 

Ah, Dr French, good to see you on Degreeinfo!!!

I know of no 'advanced' PhD's within Australia. There are the common professional doctorates such as the EdD etc, but nothing advanced further.

*HOWEVER* what is on the drawing board at the momment here in Australia is a new qualification designed to fit between the Masters and PhD. It is basically a safety net for those that do not make the PhD, but have contributed to a body of knowlege in their area of expertise and warrants recognition.

Cheers,

Dr George Brown
PhD - Trinity College & University

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Virtual Universities of Australasia & the World
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You do have proof of purchase in the form of a sales receipt, correct?



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Bill Gossett

 

At Curtin, in the Courses section of Division of Humanities, School of Media and Information, for example, you find the "Doctor of Creative Arts." The entrance qualification is: "Bachelor of Arts Honours degree (I or IIA) or a Masters degree in a relevant area," so this does not seem to be an advanced Ph.D. This particular program is 25% coursework, 75% research and 10% remedial math. http://www.curtin.edu.au/curtin/handbook/

 

Someone had posted this earlier but it seems that in at least one case the Doctor of Philosophy degree (Ph.D.) was considered lower than the Doctor of Philosophy (D.Phil.). The D.Phil. was an advanced degree. I believe that was in the prospectus for GST/PUCHE.

North

 

Here are a couple of links for higher doctorates at the University of Western Sydney in Australia. I would bet other universities there follow similiar practices.
http://www.uws.edu.au/uws/uwsh/admin/research/Policies/HigherDoctorates.shtml
http://www.uws.edu.au/uws/uwsn/policies/ppm/doc/010009.html

Here is another link explaining higher degrees as opposed to higher doctorates and explains the difference between the Ph.D. and the professional doctorate (such as a Dr. of Creative Arts).
http://www.uws.edu.au/uws/uwsh/admin/research/rpdu/higherdegree.html

John

P.S> I cannot give much credibility to your post. Who in Australia recognizes your TC&U degree?

 

Lost the receipt? Don't worry! T C&U will send a duplicate receipt and diploma from their new location, which at this time I'm not sure where that is.

 

Thanks, Peter! This is what I thought (and had certainly hoped, since the prospect of earning a "non-advanced" Ph.D. from somewhere like ACU gives me hives).

Welcome back, man! How ya been?


Peace,

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Tom Head
www.tomhead.net

 

Dear Br. Tom,

I think you are referring to Higher Doctorates. And, yes, there are some in Australia (and in New Zealand). Please check out the following page from the University of Queensland:
http://www.uq.edu.au/research/grad-school/documents/higher-doctorate-guidelines.html

I hope this heps.

Fraternally yours,


Karlos Alberto Lacaye
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P.S.: Glad to see you, too, Peter!

 

Unfortunately, the only recogntion I get for my PhD from Trinity College & University is from my cat. But I do have proof of purchase so there!

Cheers,

George

...who does not really have a PhD from TCU and is *very* jealous of those who have bought (oops!) earned one.

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PF - Well I was Dr Brown's mentor, and the real hassle was the 'Trinity' bit - Dr Brown will still NOT accept that it is not Holy Goat!

Peter French
(not a UWS graduate)