My call to Preston University

Discussion in 'General Distance Learning Discussions' started by Ralph, Nov 3, 2004.

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  1. Ralph

    Ralph New Member

    I have just phoned Preston University to query about the cost for the BS in Computer Science.

    It was something like this:


    Advisor 1 (American woman): Hello, this is Preston University. How may I help you?

    Ralph Hi, I need to get some information about the BSCS through distance learning. I am actually concerned about the fee. You are mentioning a total cost of $ 13,950.

    Advisor 1 Yes, right. That is the cost for the whole program.

    Ralph Ok, but on the other hand, on your Finland appointed institution (www.preston-edu.fi) the same program, with all the same characteristics is $ 9,950. Why is there such a difference? $ 4,000!!!

    Advisor 1 Please hold on, I will look for somebody to reply your query

    (4 minutes later…) I counted them!

    Advisor 2 (a man with a Middle East accent?): Yes?

    Ralph Yes, could you tell me the reason of the price difference between the BSCS issued by your intuition in America and the one in Finland?

    Advisor 2 Which one is higher?

    Ralph Sorry, are you asking me? Well, the finish one!

    Advisor 2 Well… actually it is because we do not control them. But, in the end you will receive the same degree issued by us.

    Ralph Excuse me. What do you mean by “we do not control them”? But, it is your institution that issues the degrees in the end!? So, sorry, again, what’s the difference in enrolling through the American or Finish website? I do get it.

    Advisor 2 Well, that is exactly the difference. It is your choice of where to enroll that will determine the cost.

    Ralph (could not help my laugh!). Ok, thanks. I appreciate your “clarification”

    Advisor 2 OK, thanks to you… and have good luck…you!


    God! Where is the American justice that we all are proud of? When will we get rid of this incompetence?

    Ralph
     
  2. John Bear

    John Bear Senior Member

    You should have asked, "How's the weather there in Islamabad?"
     
  3. uncle janko

    uncle janko member

    He's doing the best he can. You try to talk on the phone from a sauna. Especially in I-bad.
     
  4. turtle

    turtle New Member

    I have to object to this particular thread. I understand that the purpose of this forum is to expose degree mills and to assist people in their pursuit of higher education through distance learning. This can be accomplished in many ways however the comments in this thread are pretty disgusting and do not advance the objectives in any constructive manner.


    Copied from a post by Ralph

    Ralph Ok, but on the other hand, on your Finland appointed institution (www.preston-edu.fi) the same program, with all the same characteristics is $ 9,950. Why is there such a difference? $ 4,000!!!

    Advisor 2 (a man with a Middle East accent?): Yes?


    Copied from the post by John Bear.

    You should have asked, "How's the weather there in Islamabad?"

    Copied from the post by Uncle Janko

    He's doing the best he can. You try to talk on the phone from a sauna. Especially in I-bad.



    I followed the link posted by Ralph and found the fee quoted to be $13,950. I am unsure how the accent of the person makes a differnence. Are you sure the supervisor was not Finnish?

    I am truly disappointed by the responses from John Bear and Uncle Janko. I have found their comments and insights useful but this type of commentary makes me cautious about their character.

    Before I am accused of supporting them I do understand that Preston University is not a school I wish to associate with.
     
  5. oxpecker

    oxpecker New Member

    The Finnish site opens http://preston.edu/tuition.html (i.e. the U.S. site) within the frame when you click on "Tuition." So it's not surprising that you get the U.S. price! But if you go to the downloadable files page and open the catalog (PDF file), you'll find $9,950 listed.

    I don't know which is right and which wrong...
     
  6. turtle

    turtle New Member

    Thank you for a quick response. I followed your lead and found the information as you indicate.

    Any comment on the rest of my post?
     
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  7. uncle janko

    uncle janko member

    Anteeksi, what exactly is your problem with my character?

    slurp, slurp, slurp
     
  8. etech

    etech New Member

    Ralph,

    please refrain from these kind of posts in the main distance learning discussion. If you are in a need of a joke post it in off topic or something. People browse this forum, specially this section for information on education and not to see these kind of things.
     
  9. uncle janko

    uncle janko member

    Food Car on the Preston Express

    This is terrible. From Islamabad to Bearisbad to Ralphisbad all the way down to Jankobad.

    (minor scuffle, yelps, sound of beer bottles crashing)

    Ja hey, get your own damn filia.

    slurp slurp slurp

    Mm-MM. They sure don't make this stuff in Wyoming.
     
  10. tcnixon

    tcnixon Active Member


    Have you ever heard an Arabic speaker talk? Have you ever heard a Finnish speaker talk? Few would call those accents remotely similar. Particularly in this scenario because Finnish, linguistically speaking isn't related to much of anything. Rather unusual language.



    Tom Nixon
     
  11. uncle janko

    uncle janko member

    Not much of anything? Finnish is related, inter alia, to Estonian, Sami, Magyar (West Carpathian), Ostyak, Vogul, Nenets, Mordvinian and Mari.
    But you are right. A Finnish accent and an Arabic, or for that matter an Urdu accent, sound precisely nothing alike.
    Want some filia?
     
  12. George Brown

    George Brown Active Member

    ???

    Could the Nordic countries be the new Caribbean for incorporation?

    Cheers,

    George
     
  13. BillDayson

    BillDayson New Member

    Presumably the thing that's set Canadian knees jerking are the "middle east accent" and "Islamabad" rmarks.

    Well, their relevance is explained by the fact that though Preston University claims a Wyoming license and says that it offers American degrees, it actually seems to originate in Pakistan. Preston in turn appears to franchise its name to several dozen entities located all over the world, from China to the Persian Gulf, and from Venezuela to Finland. All of these various "Prestons" claim that they grant American university degrees, based on that Wyoming license.

    Ralph's post was interesting to me because it told me that these far-flung "campuses" are charging different prices for what allegedly are the same Wyoming degrees, and it was even more interesting because it gave some indication of how Preston representatives respond when questions are asked about that.
     
  14. uncle janko

    uncle janko member

    dar al-haha from Farmington to National Mine and back (with garden spot in Ishpeming)

    Why, of course, Bill! We dhimmi aren't permitted, ever, to laugh at anything, anywhere, any time, with any connection to any Muslim country (such as, say, suburban Vancouver, or Pakistan, or--thanks to Preston--some hick town in Finland).

    Weeell, tough darts. Having grown up among Finns (and, gasp, Jews), having taken Finnish in high school, and being a cleric with ecclesiastical ties to Finland, I intend to laugh my Michigander ass off now to the discomfiture of the shilling-through-Canadian-politically-correct-moralizing-because-it's-just-evil-Americans-persecuting-sinless-Pakistanis crowd.

    And to think! At one time I cautiously defended a certain legitimacy in the case of Preston (of Pakistan, not Wyoming). Filthy creature that I am, I even lived in Canada for a while. Had to ring a little bell and holler "Unclean, unclean" whenever I went to the beer store, but otherwise it wasn't too bad except for restaurant food, which was really just godawful except for the Indian places.

    Namaste,
    Janko

    P.S. Wanna pasty?
     
  15. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    Gasp! JEWS!!??!!

    Care for some gefilte fish?
     
  16. ham

    ham member

    Pakistan had the first female PM during Thatcher's time and everybody was in awe at a "rughead " country embroiled in a endless war with INDIA ( + A-bomb. wow! Germany isn't supposed to have one but they do ) capable of such "openmindedness".
    Then blanking it all out.
    Dictatorship.
    Yet Mujarraf is a very, very, very close associate of George doublejew.
    No need to "export democracy" there.
    Pakistan is as good as it gets.
    I even heard Gheddafi is soon-to-be-best-pal.
    And i still had my flags to waive from Reagan's times when HE was the mastermind of terrorism.
    I read a reliable explanation why Canada didn't go carpet-flat joining the USA with three hundreds soldiers to then claim forever payback status like Italy ( checks are still in print, however & i think they'll stay so for a looooooong time ).
    Chrétien wanted to win the Québec elections.
    Since Québec is an hotbed of protesters, he thought in his best interest to give something back to general audience to barter against PQ dismissal.
    He even hired some chameleon named John Charest ( ex conservative, turned liberal? ).
     
  17. etech

    etech New Member

    the main point being that whichever university/college or the country of origin of that college we are talking about should be an offtopic discussion, not with the main threads. Same goes for discussion on Barrington. Its not about a country, religion or a college. Its about how the discussion is done here and what are we presenting to the new members. I can understand people's reaction when they are asked to post to the correct forum but its not too much to ask. it has happened before here.
     
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  18. etech

    etech New Member

    also I think coming to a conclusion about Canadians and twisting the original post (by someone who is only discussing his dealing with some other party and showing their mismanagement) to a discussion and flames on religion whether that be Jewism, Christianity, Muslim or Finnish is very wrong. This beats the purpose of this great board from where we have learned a lot and presents a wrong image to new members about the validity of this forum. You old members need to get a grip on yourself.
     
  19. tcnixon

    tcnixon Active Member


    Teach me to take the easy way out. You're right, of course. Finnish and Finland are actually rather interesting because they are culturally more Scandinavian than anything else, but are not geographically part of Scandinavia and are linguistically unrelated.

    Yup, you wouldn't confuse those two, that is certain.



    Tom Nixon
     
  20. uncle janko

    uncle janko member

    Holy kosher saunas, Toivo! (Oops, I mean Batman).

    Jewism???

    Finnish is a religion???

    Look, pookie, I didn't put Preston in Pakistan, or Finland, or Wyoming, or kingdom come. Whyncha just say it? Infidels aren't allowed to say anything funny about anything remotely connected in any way with any Muslim country. Anyone so ignorant (what part of Surrey do you live in?) that they think that Judaism is called "Jewism" or that Finnish is a religion better go get a degree from Preston or anywhere else they can swing it.

    Its Pakistani origins are essential to an understanding of Preston. If you were not Westophobic you could search threads and see how I argued for Preston's potential legitimacy IF it had Pakistani federal government recognition. I argued that a PrestonPak degree would be better than a PrestonWY degree. It was precisely the inability to affirm that fact clearly that led me to conclude that Preston was less-than-wonderful.

    But you don't care about that. All you want is to find bigots where there are none in order to justify your own dislikes. Maybe a nice session in a sauna would calm you down. Or a snow flop. If Ralph distinguished by voice--since he had no name or image to do so--where's the harm in that? Simple. Evil Americans of bad character aren't allowed, in your universe, to say anything.

    Oh. Yeah. I have been remiss in failing to thank you for associating me, by way of "bad character", with John Bear. I can think of few higher compliments than to be tarred with the same brush as Dr Bear. Kiitoksia oikein paljon.
     

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