University of Kent at Canterbury

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  1. PCap

    PCap New Member

    Anybody out there know if UKC offers no residency research doctorates? The web site does not really answer the question and I recall a friend mentioning that they do offer this type of process. I'd be interested in a biology research based program. Any help would be appreciated.
     
  2. John Bear

    John Bear Senior Member

    PCap asks, Anybody out there know if UKC offers no residency research doctorates? The web site does not really answer the question...]

    My general findings, as I write in the section of Bears' Guide on research doctorates, suggest that there is very little consistency in how the residency is handled -- from school to school, and even within the same department of the same school.

    I've heard from a fair number of readers now, whose experiences support this. For instance, there are people who know someone who did a nonresident program in a particular department -- but when they apply, they are told they must be there for quarterly or monthly visits.

    My to find a 'promoter' in advance -- someone in the department who will support your cause -- seems valid, as do the various suggestions for finding one.

    John Bear http://www.degree.net
     
  3. John Bear

    John Bear Senior Member

    PCap asks, Anybody out there know if UKC offers no residency research doctorates? The web site does not really answer the question...]

    My general findings, as I write in the section of Bears' Guide on research doctorates, suggest that there is very little consistency in how the residency is handled -- from school to school, and even within the same department of the same school.

    I've heard from a fair number of readers now, whose experiences support this. For instance, there are people who know someone who did a nonresident program in a particular department -- but when they apply, they are told they must be there for quarterly or monthly visits.

    My to find a 'promoter' in advance -- someone in the department who will support your cause -- seems valid, as do the various suggestions for finding one.

    John Bear http://www.degree.net
     
  4. mattie9

    mattie9 New Member

    Thank you for the info. I have been corresponding with them just briefly and have found the same confusion. When I inquired they mentioned annual living costs as if I were going to move there. I asked for clarification on this point and am waiting on a reply. I also found the website unclear.


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  5. PCap

    PCap New Member

    Yes, it is confusing even if you get to speak with someone there. A colleague of mine spent several weeks there for seminars in raptor biology,came back to the USA and wrote a paper (thesis?) using data she had been collecting for years. The result was something called an Advanced Diploma (Ad.Dip.?)or some such thing.She told me that several people had earned non resident doctorates through them and sat for exams etc. here in the states.When I first inquired regarding this, they sent me the information regarding the program my friend undertook!!!!! I know of a very well regarded biologist who received his Ph.D. from UKC after conducting field work in New Zealand. He and I share the same research interests so I'm deliberating as to whether I should attempt to contact him to see if he might be able to assist. Since he is an alum,and fairly famous,perhaps he could act as my mentor and adjunct professor or something.If anyone has thoughts on this please let me know. I would do the Union thing but for the love of Pete the !#$&*#$ money they want is horrendous!

    By the way,I taught as an adjunct and then a substitute instructor in biology for years with a B.A. from Regents (now Excelsior)at several state and city community colleges. Sometimes I would fill in at the four year schools. So it is possible to eke out a living teaching that way but of course tenure and permanent appointments were out of the question, even though I was doing the same (if not more) work than full time, tenured Ph.D.s! The catalogs from these schools listed several tenured professors with doctorates from Union, and one good friend and tenured colleague is doing the Nova Southeastern Ed.D. I am now at a major research institution and can still perhaps get adjunct work, but without that Ph.D. many doors in teaching at college level are closed.Problem is that I must keep working and figured a foreign doctorate is so much less expensive that if it could be done externally it would be just the thing. UOL,UNISA,UKC etc. are all great ideas but you can't get straight answers regarding DL doctorates.Anyway, that is the dilemma and I've vented enough so thanks for listening whoever you are.

    Best Wishes,
    PCap
     
  6. Jack Tracey

    Jack Tracey New Member

    Having corresponded with UKC and a number of other British and Australian schools on the topic of non-residential research doctorates, my sense is that you will continue to get non-committal answers to your questions. My understanding of this is that the schools willingness to support a non-residential research doctoral program of study depends almost exclusively on YOUR ability to convince a panel of their Professors (or even just one) to act as your advisors, etc.
    Not many are willing to put themselves on the line for someone they've never heard of and may never meet (if you have your way). If you're determined to explore this option, my advice is that you start corresponding with the faculty at the school that share your interest. Read up on their work and send them some of your work. If you can create a little enthusiasm for your candidacy as a grad student then you will have an ally on the inside. If then you write to the admissions office (or whoever) and say that Prof. X has expressed some willingness to be your advisor, well then you will likely get a very different reception. Jack
     
  7. PCap

    PCap New Member

    Thanks for the excellent advice Jack.That is pretty much the conclusion I came up with myself.Hopefully it wouldn't take years to gain someone's confidence.
    Cheers
    PCap
     
  8. PCap

    PCap New Member

    Just received a postgraduate prospectus 2001 from UKC which included a fact sheet for external candidature for research degrees. It's pretty informative and we basically guessed correctly,you need someone there who will sponsor you,someone in your home country who will provide day to day guidance etc.and you need good reasons for doing the DL thing. The cost is 5,100 Pounds full time registration per year so if you do a three year stint for a Ph.D. your looking at about $21,000. Steep but still better than Union at around $50,000.
     
  9. mattie9

    mattie9 New Member

    Thanks for sharing this info. All in all their DICE programme sounds pretty good, if like has been said here, you can get a supportive faculty member. The price is not too bad either.

    mattie



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