frederick taylor university

i was wondering if this university was accredited and if it is a good place to get a degree form...

 

No. FTU is not accredited by a recognized agency. One should expect little or no acceptance of such a degree at accredited schools. One should also expect such a degree to be less marketable for employment, but we don't really know to what effect.

One troubling aspect I find is that FTU has split itself into two entities. One is approved by the state of California. The other--presumably to allow FTU to offer degrees it could not get California to approve--operates from an address in Hawaii. Hawaii's laws are considerably more lax in this regard. Both, however, are really one school run from California, doing an "end-run" by using a convenience address in Hawaii. If Hawaii gets tough, expect that part of FTU to end up in South Dakota, Wyoming, or some other haven for such schools. Not a ringing endorsement.

Rich Douglas

 

I FIND THAT IT IS ACCREDITED BY THE BUREAU FOR PRIVATE POSTSECONDARY AND VOCATIONAL EDUCATION...THE SAME ACCREDITING SOURCE FOR UNIVERSITY OF PHOENIX..

 

That isn't "accreditation"; it's state "Approval." Because the University of Phoenix is an out-of-state school, the BPPVE also approves it (based upon the school's regional accreditation).

A recent study (being presented today at the American Association of Registrars and Admissions Officials' convention) shows that there is almost no acceptance of state approved degrees among admissions officials at accredited schools. And they make no distinction between states with some semblence of standards (like California) and states with none.

Rich Douglas

 

State approval is near meaningless.

The University of Phoenix is *accredited* by the North Central Association, one of the regional associations recognized by the US Department of Education. In addition, several programs are accredited by professional/specialized associations: nursing degree programs are accredited by the National League for Nursing Accrediting Commission; Master of Counseling Program in Community Counseling at the Phoenix and Tucson campuses is accredited by the Council for Accreditation of Counseling and Related Educational Programs.

FTU is not accredited by any association.

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Kristin Evenson Hirst
DistanceLearn.About.com

 

It may be a good place to get a degree form [sic] (as in application form), but it isn't a good place to get a degree FROM!

 

Hello Folks,

Here it is from the horse's mouth. I am a graduate from FTU. Whatever has been said above is true; however<B> FTU</B> is for real. The program is genuine and faculty including the President Mr. Mansour Saki, Ms Sheila and Glaynis actually respond promptly to various queries during the course of study. The papers are broken down in 2 parts- Home assignment and final in order to evaluate one's grade, and both are quiet extensive. If one completes the same with full dedication like I did; one will feel proud to attain handful knowledge in the end of the day. Yes, books are for free and I remember some good one's are included like MBA in Strategy by Randall and CD ROM in Computer Technology for Managers was a really very good foundation course. In the end of the day I got my transcript atttested from State Department which bears signature of Mrs. Albright former US secy. <B><I>And what can you expect more from $ 3000 MBA (ask for scholarship and you can get one waiver of 1000$s)</B></I> I will soon publish my study papers on the web for reference.

Regards,

Amit.

 

I won't comment on the abysmal grammar or on the quality of FTU's programme.

I will, however, point out that Mme Albright's signature was on an "apostille," the document attesting to an internationally certified copy -- not unlike a notarized copy. (When I got married in Belgium, my Indiana birth certificate -- as well as an "official letter" from the mayor of Indianapolis stating that I was not already married [little did the mayor of Puurs in Belgium realize that those records are county, not city, but I digress] -- had an apostille from the Indiana Secretary of State.) BFD.

jmbp

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J. M. B. Porter, PhD
Lecturer in World History

 

Why should the Secretary of State be involved with an unaccredited California state-approved school? If any official of the US government should attest, wouldn't it be the Secretary of Education? I don't know how the process works. Perhaps I am missing something.

Ike

 

Hello Amit, and welcome to the forum.

I notice that you live in the UAE. Would you by chance know Neil Hynd, who also currently lives in the UAE and posts on this forum?

Russell

 

Dear Russell,

I know Dubai is a small place with population of a less than 1.5 million, but I do not know Neil Hynd. May be I meet him one day soon, by virtue fo my profession(sales).

cheers,

Amit.

 

Dear World History Lecturer:

I am writing to remind you that this very wonderful forum, created and monitored by Chip, Bill, Tom, and a few precious others, is intended for use for people from around the world. I find your comments-- mentioning of the FTU grad's grammar somewhat disturbing. I believe that the discussion board is, quite simply, a general discussion board, and not a writing contest/grammar discussion board.

It's the essence of the discussion that counts. Our FTU graduate kindly shared with us his experiences with FTU. I do not see why his english grammar should be brought up.

I do not find you qualified to discuss FTU's program either.

If you're judging a school, whether properly accredited or not, base on the english skills of a particular graduate, you've already committed a fallacy. My mother tongue is Portugese, and English is my second language. I admit that I do not speak fluently when compared to the "locallers." So, does that mean my Boston University Ph.D is inferior?

Credibility lies in what you say. Signing the letters Ph.D and calling yourself as lecturer doesn't mean a "dime" to me (although to others they may). If fact, my humble opinion tells me that doing the aforementioned constantly on a general discussion board is rather needless.

Regards,

Samuel Xavier

 

Hi Sam

While I am usually willing to give the benefit of the doubt to a new poster, when they are presenting themself as an example of the product of an unaccredited school I think their grammar and spelling are legitiment subjects.

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Best Regards,
Dave Hayden

 

"Legitiment subjects"? Don't you mean "legitimate"? Exactly what school are you the product of?

Sorry, couldn't resist...

Bruce

 

Thank for your support Mr. Xavier, BTW I feel proud of my knowledge gained from FTU curriculam and I am an extremely successful Business Executive whose primary job fuction is meeting CEOs of world's fortune 500 companies. Please visit my site www.amitkalia.com and gauge my potential. I would also like to mention that I have made this website on my own.

Cheers,

Amit.

 

Thanks for pointing out the grammatical errors made by the previous poster. I have come to believe that those who care most about spelling and grammatical errors are not perfect with grammar.
This is a public forum and some of us never spoke English until adult age. I speak accented English and some people even judge my intelligence with my accent. One reason why I like Usenet is that xenophobes will never hear my heavily accented English. Those that pick on spelling and grammar should also know that there is a thing called "typo" and all of us, including the venerable Dr. Bear and Dr. Levicoff (I truly respect them) make typographical mistakes.
I thank God that my doctoral study is a short residency DL program and as such my professors and fellow students will only put up with my heavy accent for a short time.
My colleagues at work and my college students do not strain their ears to understand my accent. When people need information from me, they seem to forget about my accent. They only detect my accent when I need something from them.
This forum will continue to be a better place, as it has always been, if we should stop judging people people’s intelligence and ability with their English grammar. Besides good grammar is not part of netiquette.
Note: This is by no means an attempt to defend unaccredited schools and degree mills.

Ike

 

I'm not going to comment on the grammar or spelling of anyone who has posted to this thread. My remarks concern the general topic of language ability among DL students.

My basic axiom is: If a person claims a degree from a university teaching in a particular language, it is reasonable to expect a minimal level of literacy in that language.

Obviously what that level is depends on a lot of things, such as one's degree level and major. A math major need not write as well as a history major.

It is certainly not xenophobia to demand an equivalent academic standard from all students, no matter where they were born. Anything else is condescension. If a native student would be failed for handing in a poorly written paper, should that same paper be accepted from a foreign student? If I enrolled in a German university, I would expect to be held to a normal German university standard.

Considering that huge numbers of people enrolling in English language programs are not operating in their first language, and considering all the ESL examinations that these people are asked to take and all the writing that they are expected to do in their programs, I'm kind of amazed that the subject of language has not been an active topic of conversation here.

My opinion is that it is childish to jump on minor spelling and grammar errors in newsgroup posts. They usually are the result of poor proofreading and fast typing. But if a person claims a particular degree but does not write at a commensurate level, legitimate doubts are raised.

Again, that is not a criticism of anyone posting on this thread, just a general observation about the level of writing ability that should be expected of distance education students. I have no indication that anyone on this thread falls below that standard, but that shouldn't be interpreted to mean that the standard doesn't exist.

 

Hi Bruce

I did indeed. You definately got me.



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Best Regards,
Dave Hayden

 

Hi Amit,

Glad to visit your site and see you're just up the road from me here in Abu Dhabi.

I find we have to make allowances on this group for many of the parochial people who inhabit much of the Distance Education world (many of whom appear to live in the USA).

All the more power to your elbow if you got what you wanted from FTU without being fleeced financially by those offering their brand of accreditation.

Example: NCU went from $105 per credit to $165 and they've just made another step towards Regional Accreditation. Watch out for more price hikes towards the $250-$300 mark.

Cheers,

Neil Hynd

 

By "parochial," I assume you mean "those who may later choose to attend another (accredited) university for a higher degree or may wish to apply for a job that requires an accredited degree (in the US or elsewhere)." In other words...nearly every higher education consumer on the planet.

If Amit doesn't need a useful credential for either of the above ambitions and is worried about the cost, why didn't he just buy the textbooks and read them (at about $20/credit rather than the grotesque fleecing that he got from FTU or would have gotten from an accredited school)?