Dear all: In their most recent literature, Calcoast states that the following colleges have accepted CCU credits for transfer: Anna Marie College Bowie State University college of St. Thomas City University of New York Mercer University Madonna College National Louis University University of Massachusets Ministry of University Affairs, Bangkok Northland Open University Northern Kentucky University Ocean City College Southland University Towanan State University University of North Carolina Union Graduate School Norwich University Walden University So, in addition to a student's relevant professional experiences and the the fact that some RA schools place unaccredited uni grads on academic probation till they've shown their competency during the academic year, any other reasons as to why some of the mentioned RA schools accept CCU grads? Byran
Did the literature you're referring to explicitly state "credits"? Or was it something else? For example, those schools could be some of the ones CCU graduates went on to after finishing at CCU. It is not unheard of for graduates of unaccredited schools to get accepted at accredited schools. Transferring credits from an unaccredited undergraduate program into an accredited one seems a little more rare. The exact wording of the brochure would help us "parse" through it. BTW: I see at least one degree mill (Southland) and one almost-nonexistent school (Northland Open). Rich Douglas
A few years ago, I made contact with some of the schools, and they said they had accepted CCU credits on a one-time basis, based on the work the student had done. I am not aware of any regionally accredited school that has accepted CCU degrees. As Rich points out, it is unfortunate that CCU has chosen to list the dreadful Southland University among the schools that ostensibly give them credibility. After Southland was closed, its founder James (Thomas) Kirk, moved on to start LaSalle University, then moved on to federal prison. CCU owner Thomas Kirk Jr. presumably reads this forum, since he sent me a very hostile (my interpretation) Email once, when I made public comment on something his father (the Buick salesman who founded CCU) told me 20 years ago, which Jr. denies happened. Perhaps he will comment on this matter here. Perhaps Suidae will levitate.
John almost certainly does not mean Thomas "Kirk" as the founder of CCU, but Thomas Neal (Junior and Senior). As John noted, James (Thomas) Kirk was beamed up to Federation penal colony. Rich Douglas
(Chuckling at Rich's post...) In addition, I'd like to know of the time frame regarding the acceptance of CCU credits by RA schools. CCU has been around for a while, after all. Are they representing that the schools listed would accept its credits today?
John, IIRC, you were walking with Kirk Sr. through the hollowed halls of CCU, when you come upon a glass case. Inside the case, under lock and key, are several CCU "dissertations." You ask Kirk Sr. about them and he shares that they are there so no one can examine them. He is somewhat embarrassed by their quality. Is this how the story went? And Thomas Kirk Jr., who now owns CCU, is it his father who is in prison? Russell
Just in case John doesn't get back right away, it was Thomas NEAL, not Kirk. "Kirk" was a typo brought forward from the thought on Southland/La Salle. Thomas Neal isn't in prison. But his doctorate was awarded by his own school. Okay, so it's not the same thing. I still don't like it. Rich Douglas
This may give students the none too accurate idea that their degrees may be more acceptable than they are based on the transfer of credits. As has been pointed out this may have been done on a case by case basis. North
Rich, Yeah, the big list of schools are under the heading: "Universities which have accepted CCU credits for transfer." One wonders why they are foolish enough to include Northland Open University and Southland University. I support legitimate unaccredited non-traditional education (and RA of course) thru distance learning. If what CCU states is true, I'm happy for the CCU grads. They're, afterall, gaining more knowledge thru their coursework regardless. On the other hand, if one needs only to summarize a book with a whopping 10 page report and gets a quickie Bachelor degree, then it's a different story. (that's what I've read regarding Century University when I did a search on them using AltaVista) Byran
Thanks, Rich. That was the reason for my question, the names didn't seem to connect. However, the story, IIRC, is true. I guess like the old episodes of "Dragnet," the names have been changed to protect the innocent. Russell
