Another UoL LLM; What's up with that nosborne48?

Discussion in 'General Distance Learning Discussions' started by Tom57, Sep 24, 2004.

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  1. Tom57

    Tom57 Member

    I noticed that the University of London External has started a new LLM for 2005. I haven't researched it, so I don't really know how it compares with the old one, which is still in operation.

    I know there are a few (nosborne48 and others) who may find this interesting (perplexing?).

    Here's the link.

    http://www.londonexternal.ac.uk/postgraduate/panel/llm_04/index.shtml
     
  2. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    Wow! This looks like quite a reorganization of the program! First, I see that it's a LOT more expensive than the program I'm in. Second, there appear to be only two schools offering it. Third, you don't need a law degree for admission. FInally, they are offering a postgraduate diploma in law as well as the LL.M.

    I don't know any more than you do. I wonder if this will affect my registration?
     
  3. oxpecker

    oxpecker New Member

  4. airtorn

    airtorn Moderator

    It has been briefly mentioned in a few posts but not really discussed.
     
  5. Jack Tracey

    Jack Tracey New Member

    To me it seems that 4KUSD is a bit steep for a Postgrad Cetificate but 10KUSD doesn't seem too much for a full Masters degree. It's true that there are a whole bunch of Masters programs for a lot less but not in Law and not with the apparent flexibility of these programs. I'm wondering what it means when they say "teaching support is available in many countries" Does that mean it's available at extra cost? If it's an online degree why would the teaching support be restricted geographically? Sorry for the newbie questions but I don't keep up with U of L program changes.
    Jack
     
  6. Tom57

    Tom57 Member

    My understanding is that UoL does have arrangements with some institutions to provide teaching support (or "tuition" as they call it). So it does depend on location. Generally, I think this involves cost over and above the UoL fees.
     
  7. jesatlarge

    jesatlarge New Member

    new vs. old London LLM

    I'm new to this forum and I just want to thank the veteran posters for providing a wealth of information. I've been accepted into the London LLm, old style, and was about to get my registration going when I saw the info about the new degrees. The one through UCL especially attracted me, as this is quite generally considered one of the UK's best three or four law schools. Anyway, I've emailed the school about a number of items including;
    a. whether or not one is actually enrolled with UCL, not just UL
    b. when the first exam cycle begins
    c. the range of course and speciality offereings
    d. the help given to students

    I'll share this info if and when I get a response. Meanwhile, I have a few questions about the current LLM. I'm interested in the Criminology specialization along with Jurisprudence. My goal is get this LLM and then a Phd in criminiolgy or Criminal Justice and to teach law/criminology courses at the undergrauate, not law school level. I've never practiced law, nor do I have the desire. I've been a HS, adjunct college, and test prep LSAT, GMAT, GRE teacher most of my life. Will the UofL degree be viable for this plan? Is it at least somewhat interchangeable with a traditional Criminal Justice or Criminology degree, at least in the UK?

    Lastly, Norbett's description of the workload scares me. I've always been a quick academic study: 99% on the LSAT, top 15%of a second tier Law school without any real effort ( I am not proud of this). But my JD is 10 years old and I no longer have much of a handle on the US system, much less the British. Would a person so far removed from Law school be swamped by the unfamiliarity with both American and English law? Or is the course, and I'm hoping here, significantly theoretical or sociological in perspective and thus somewhat more accessible to those with law training in the somewhat distant past. Thanks all.
     
  8. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    For what it is worth, the workload scared ME so much I signed up with Law Tutors On Line for "tuition". Their materials help a LOT but actual tuturials don't start until January 2005.

    So far, it is almost ENTIRELY sociology, but looking ahead, I think it will turn toward a policy type analysis. "What's good for victims in a cautioning scheme and what's bad for victims?" sort of thing.

    I don't know who "Norbett" is unless you mean me?
     
  9. jesatlarge

    jesatlarge New Member

    Thanks for the info Nosborne. I must have bee n drinking when I referred to you as Norbett. By reading around on this site I see that you post many helpful replies. I'm still waiting on a reply from U of L concerning last week's email. Meanwhile, does anyone have an answer, or an educated guess, as to whether or not a London LLM with a Criminal Justice and Criminiology specialization is roughly equivalent to a more usual Masters in CJ?
     
  10. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    I got a letter from UoL stating that the last examinations under the existing LL.M. program will be given in August, 2009. I anticipate completing my degree requirements in August 2006 (if all goes well this summer) and will not attempt to transfer to the new program. My registration will exprire no later than August 2008.

    I will post information as I receive it.
     
  11. cvongoins

    cvongoins New Member

    Uol versus USA

    I am in the process of applying for the LLB degree via distance education. I have identifed two universities. University of London and the University of South Africa.

    Currently, I have a BA Political Science from Tulane University.

    My goal is not to practice law, but to have an understanding of the law (professional endeavers)

    Are both universities internationally respected?

    Are the course load equal?


    PS Are there other LLB programs, that are just as respected.
     
  12. novemberdude

    novemberdude New Member

    Re: Uol versus USA

    I don't know about UNISA, but I can say that found the first year course load at UoL to be heavy.

    As far as I can recall, I think this is a comprehensive list of Royal Charter English Universities offering Distance Learning LLBs:

    University of Northumbria
    University of Huddersfield
    Nottingham Trent
    Open University
    University of London

    I may have forgotten one, if I did someone will surely catch it.

    Also worth considering are Australian Universities. I am sure that Deakin University offers an off campus LLB. Not sure about any other Aussie schools.

    My personal opinion is that the University of London LLB is the most prestigious, but that is only my opinion.

     
  13. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    cvongoins:

    Just remember that even an unaccredited California D/L J.D. Bar program will make you a licensed attorney which neither the University of London or UNISA is likely to do.
     

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