Help finding Christian School

Discussion in 'General Distance Learning Discussions' started by BDev, Aug 30, 2004.

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  1. BDev

    BDev New Member

    I need help finding a Christian School with a distance program. I' need a psychology degree as I am aspiring towards becoming a counselor. I would prefer asynchronous(sp) learning. Any help offered would be greatly appreciated!! :)
     
  2. Tom Head

    Tom Head New Member

    Baptist-affiliated Judson College offers one of the best correspondence-based bachelor's programs in the country, from what I've seen and heard of it. It's technically a women's college, but I think the distance learning offerings are coed. I'm pretty sure psychology is available as a major.

    Good luck!


    Cheers,
     
  3. Howard

    Howard New Member

  4. Randell1234

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  5. Marylars

    Marylars New Member

    You might want to check out Amberton, too. www.amberton.edu

    They offer a limited number of majors and specialize in Business Administration, Counseling, Professional Development, Human Resources types of programs. The price is right at $200/credit hour for both grad and undergrad programs. I'm working on an MBA and have been very pleased with the program so far.
     
  6. BDev

    BDev New Member

    Thanks for the tips, some of those schools are unfamiliar to me. I'm familiar with Liberty (I requested info from them in May <and I'm still waiting :rolleyes: >. I will check out the other schools though. I appreciate all of your help!!
     
  7. DesElms

    DesElms New Member

    I'm gonna' draw a lot of hate mail for this, I know, but somebody's gotta' say it (and I should warn that I'm a liberal ELCA Lutheran -- virtually Godless, by some conservative Christian standards -- so now what I'm about to say may make more sense): When people ask questions like the thread-starter's, I wish they'd add what kind of program -- biblically and indoctrinationally speaking -- that they seek. When it comes to religion, we need to consider what I call the "brainwashing" factor. And I don't mean that as badly as it sounds... er... or... maybe I do.

    Where I'm headed is: Not all "Christian" schools are alike, as I'm sure no one here needs to be told by the likes of me. A BA/BS program at a Methodist-owned and operated university is a decidely different experience -- biblically indoctrinationally speaking -- than a BA program at... oh... say... for example, a conservative Baptist school. An undergraduate experience at a college or university owned and operated by the PCUSA or the ECUSA or the ELCA is going to be night-and-day different in terms of the amount of angst and bible thumping going on than if it were at, for example, a conservative Evangelical or Pentecostal bible college.

    Some denominations are broad-minded and inclusive and convey that in all of their biblical teachings; and others use the bible almost retributively and as something of a club over one's head.

    So, in addition to whatever other criteria you have, BDev, you should probably also tell us: When you're walking across campus with a bible under your coat, do you want to be required to first obtain a permit to carry a concealed weapon, or would you rather be on a campus operated by a denomination that has learned to loosen-up a bit?

    Okay, there. I said it. Now watch the conservatives slice and dice me. It's okay, though. We of the ELCA are used to spending time on the ecumenical cutting board.
     
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  8. BDev

    BDev New Member

    DesElms,

    I hope that you won't get sliced and diced! I appreciate your statement...that was very legitimate (shows concern). My main concern is becoming a Christian Counselor (legally <accredited school>). I know exactly what you meant when you spoke of brainwashing. The denominational schools push certain doctrine (as they feel they should) and I don't have a problem with that. I know how to "filter" and I would not pick a school that was too far "left" or "right" of my own beliefs. That's why I'm not particular about the school (publicly--because privately, I'll hash all of that out).
     
  9. w_parker

    w_parker New Member

    Check out Dallas Baptist University, a respected school in this area with concentrations in Christian Ministries, Pyschology, bible studies, and then they have Business degrees and Masters/MBA programs that are ACBSP accredited in addition to RA of course. www.dbu.edu

    Bill
     
  10. mrw142

    mrw142 New Member

    I won't slice-and-dice you--ah, maybe I will--but if you think that treating the teachings of Jesus and the Pauline letters--even those uncomfortable things about morality that offend modern notions of egalitarianism--as something that is truth and gives life is a "club over one's head", then I freely confess to carrying that club.

    You have a right to your opinion--I'd personally say a right to be wrong, but what am I?--but don't you think in your heart that your post was a bit of a stretch, a bit off topic, a gratuitous little swipe?

    Nonetheless, I wish you well, and hope very much to persuade you; I believe the stakes are rather high. For what it's worth in your mind, God Bless you.
     
  11. BDev

    BDev New Member

    Uh oh, I spoke too soon! Thank you, W_Parker, I am waiting for them to send me some info through the mail (it should be here soon).

    mrw142, I'm assuming that you and DesElms have dueled before and that's why you took offense at the "swipe". Despite the swipe, I truly appreciate the question (I'm wondering why no one asked it before him).
     
  12. DesElms

    DesElms New Member

    You know, mrw142, you don't know me. You don't know anything about my faith. You don't know if I pray or, if I do, how or how often. You don't know what's in my heart. You don't know my acts. You don't know my intentions. You know nothing of my relationship with God, or how or if the Holy Spirit moves through my life. Yet you and your bible-as-a-club-over-the-head types presume to tell me what is truth and life-giving. In classic bible-thumper style, you can't close without an ominous warning that "the stakes are rather high." And how dare you presume and then, concomitantly, suggest that your wish for God's blessing on me has no worth in my mind.

    The thread-starter asked about a good BA progam at a Christian school. Even he agrees that differentiating between denominational flavors is valid in this context. I dare say anyone else (except maybe fundamentalist, evangelical, bible-thumping strict and literal Paulists) would think it appropriate as well.

    Yet you consider it "a bit of a stretch, a bit off topic, [and] a gratuitous little swipe" to have even brought it up. Do you not see that only a person who believes that his way is the only way, and that all other ways are not worth considering, could possibly dismiss the validity of merely raising the question, as you're doing? I'm virtually certain, not. And therein lies the problem. Your kind who "freely confess to carrying that club" types believe, with a sinful arrogance, that you have the truth and no one else does. Your type uses the bible as a weapon; as an ominous warning; as an ever-present admonition to tow the line... or else.

    That isn't what Jesus had in mind. But I know you can't see that. Your kind never can see it. Everyone is lost but you.

    And don't insult my intelligence with your passive-aggressive "I wish you well," bible thumper. You and I both know that unless I come around to your very specific and narrow way of thinking, what you wish me is nothing short of a well-deserved eternal damnation. And that's, in part, what makes your bible a weapon; and mine a source of wisdom and comfort... as Christ intended.

    Sola gracia, bible thumper. Sola gracia.
     
  13. mrw142

    mrw142 New Member

    DesElms

    Please, be honest with me: was there any "sinner damning" going on here? We were having a discussion about which DL Christian school would be best for a psych degree; do you honestly think that that the posters were unaware of the distinction between conservative and liberal theologies, between ELCA Lutheran and Southern Baptist? That you reminding them of this distinction served any purpose other than affording you an opportunity to throw around enlightened words and phrases like "brainwashing" "concealed weapon" "club over one's head" "angst", and of-course, the time-honored "bible-thumping"?

    You entered the post with all the grace and elan of a beligerent ex at a wedding party: a series of slurs on those who interpret scriptures different from you, and then you feign surprise and shock when I respond with a rather mild post. The fact that you said "Now watch the conservatives slice and dice me" is called poisoning the water in rhetorical terms: You spit upon someone, then say: "Ah, we all know what these narrow-minds do, behold the reaction."

    You know what you were trying to do, as does any who would read this string with an open mind, let's have none of this sophistry about you bringing up a good point--you wanted to bait one of a different theological bent, you fire the first shot, then play the martyr. I would like it recognized that the only one who has thrown ad hominem around in this string is the one who fired the first rhetorical shot: you, the enlightened open mind.
     
  14. mrw142

    mrw142 New Member

    Oh, and one other thing--I'm an attorney, I'm conditioned to billing by the hour, there's always "one other thing"--if you wish to discuss Lutheran theology, I'm certain that you understand that "Sola Gracia" is incoherent without that other touchstone of Luther and the Reformation--Sola Scriptura. I and the one of the 95 Theses embrace both, why don't you join us?
     
  15. skoolgurl

    skoolgurl New Member

    I'm really enjoying my time at Southern Christian University.

    They have a Bachelor's degree in Human Development and a great dual Master's degree in Marriage & Family Therapy and Professional Counseling.

    That's what I'm looking into after finishing my Bachelor's.
     
  16. gbcpastor

    gbcpastor New Member

    Hello everyone! I'm a newbie around here. I would have to recommend (to the shagrin of some around here :) ) about Trinity Theological Seminary in Indiana. They have a great Master's Program, and my wife just received her Master's in Education online from a RA school and she agrees that my work is much more thorough. With Trinity a candidate for RA with the North Central Association, those who haven't taken a course in the past couple of years would be quite surprised. I would reccomend this school for anyone seeking a quality Christian education at a great price! Thanks for letting me put my "two cents" in!
     
  17. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Is this a redundancy?
     
  18. mrw142

    mrw142 New Member

    ...liberal ELCA Lutheran...


    Is this a redundancy?

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    Jimmy:

    Believe it or not--no, it's not redundant. The ELCA isn't nearly as monolithic doctrinally as my friendly foe DesElms--who I wish no ill upon, least of all eternal perdition--thinks.

    For 8 years I was a member of one of the largest ELCA congregations--8,000 members--in the United States, and I left for logistical, not doctriinal reasons. There are many ELCA churches that believe more-or-less in sola scriptura and take the Bible seriously; they do not bend it to whatever societal trend rules the day.

    I have more than one ELCA tie: I was a member of the aforementioned megachurch; I was a regular attender of another ELCA congregation prior to that; my wife graduated from an ELCA-affiliated college; my mother and father-in-law are professors there; I have a personal acquaintance with the former Bishop over the entire denomination--H. George Anderson--a man with whom I've broken bread and engaged in more than one conversation.

    I wish the ELCA no ill will. I don't agree with the personal beliefs of some of the hierarchy, but the official doctrine is pretty close to the mark, and there are many millions of members who take seriously the admonition of Jesus that: "I am the way and the truth and the life, no one comes to the Father except through me..."
     
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