Recognition of Calamus International University

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  1. salami89

    salami89 New Member

    Is Calamus International University recognised?
     
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  2. Splas

    Splas New Member

    Dont like the looks of it.

    http://www.unicalamus.org/accred.htm

    That accreditation looks strange, and the degree requirements are also strange.

    I'd probably stay away from this place.
     
  3. spmoran

    spmoran Member

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    Nice site. In my opinion, the more affilliate programs (like Amazon.com, merchant account processors and free web hosting providers) that a legitimate school can crowd onto the margin of it's website, then the more the credential will be respected by both academia and industry.

    Not. Jeez... :rolleyes:
     
  4. Chip

    Chip Administrator

    In short, the school is not accredited and would certainly fall into the "less than wonderful" category.

    One of the big warning signs for a fraudulent school is a website featuring a long page with explanations and apologia about why they're not accredited by recognized accrediting bodies.

    Another warning sign (though there are exceptions to this) is the inclusion of the word "international" in the name.

    Another one is a school that lists an address in one locale, but says it's not an address where you can visit, and lists another address in a different country (usually a PO box) that is the "legal" address of the school.

    A third warning sign is a school with a phone number that only goes to voicemail, where someone will call you back.

    Since this school has all three of these warning signs, I think it's fairly safe to say that it's probably a fraud.
     
  5. George Brown

    George Brown Active Member

    Calamus International University offers its programs illegally in Australia.

    Cheers,

    George
     
  6. DesElms

    DesElms New Member

    I agree, though I would caution that one should carefully read anything that appears to be an "apologia" page and verify that that's actually what it is. What I mean is, Chip's right, but sometimes such pages amount to a very respectable full disclosure and, therefore, do not, in and of themselves, indicate that the school is or might be less-than-wonderful or an outright diploma mill.

    For example, once (and I can no longer remember which institution it was) I thought that that's what the page contained, but then upon a more careful reading I realized that it was a very direct, no nonsense discussion of what, precisely, accreditation is and means (with links to explanatory and even cautionary web sites like CHEA's and the USDoE); it supported the notion of accreditation; it promised that the school planned on getting it and projected the date by which they believed that would happen; it explained why it had not yet happened in remarkably frank terms; made it painfully clear what both the up and downsides of getting a degree from them until they finally got accreditation would mean to the prospective student; and strongly recommended that the prospective student make sure what he/she was getting into before proceeding.

    Now, all that having been said, I still think, in the end, it turned out to be a diploma mill, as I recall. But, darn it, its accreditation page sure was nice!

    But, seriously, I've often thought that if I were going to start a school that I fully intended to get accredited, but which was too young to even apply, that's exactly the kind of accreditation page I'd put up: Very informative, makes sure it covers the ups and downs, warns against signing-up without fully understanding the consequences, etc., etc. It's difficult to imagine what more than that kind of full disclosure one could expect? And if such disclosure were as full as all that, would it not say something good about the integrity, generally, of the unaccredited school?

    Just askin'

    So there will be no confusion about my bottom-line beliefs, though, I say to the reader: Read and re-read what Chip wrote because more often than not, what I've described, herein, is the exception rather than the rule; and what he wrote is pretty much the way it is.
     
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  7. Gus Sainz

    Gus Sainz New Member

    Yes. Just like the other entity you enquired about (Suffield College and University), it is widely recognized as a degree mill.
     
  8. uncle janko

    uncle janko member

    Business licences from Caribbean nations and possessions do not constitute accreditation by those nations and possessions. Repeat this 85 times. Simple, no? There are a few such nations which do accredit, but their accreditation is generally NOT viewed as equivalent to US RA or NA. But a business calling itself a university is a business, not a university.
     
  9. raristud

    raristud Member

    Suffield, Salami, Calamus.... They all sound similar. When I say Suffield, Salami, and Calamus, I think of seafood and the diverse crustacean species in the sea. hmmm smells fishy to me.


    Ray,

    Nova SouthEastern University
    MS in Educational Media - 2005?
     
  10. natasha668

    natasha668 New Member

    :bsflag:
    I achieved my PsyD through Calamus. I sent my transcript to California University who approved my credits and sent me a USA equivalent diploma. My job also now recognizes the PsyD.
     
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  11. bpreachers

    bpreachers New Member

    Of course you would join and make this your very first and only post. That is not suspicious or anything :hmmm::hmmm::hmmm::hmmm:
     
  12. MichaelR

    MichaelR Member

    i am going to assume you mean California university the credential evaluation company with is neither a reputable university or imho a reputable credential evaluation company.
     
  13. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

    :iagree:

    In order for Natasha to even begin to convince me she'd have to do the following:
    Give her real full name
    Tell us which "California University" accepted her degree
    Scan the letter from this university demonstrating their acceptance
    Show us evidence that your employer recognizes your "PsyD" (which means that you're being allowed to provide psychotherapy services based on this degree (I'm sure our friends in the insurance industry will be interested in this information.)
     
  14. Chip

    Chip Administrator

    20 bucks says Natasha is a shill for Calamus trying to do damage control. Too bad that instead, she's resurrected a 7 year old thread so that lots of people will now know about this fraud that would otherwise never have heard of it.
     
  15. jackrussell

    jackrussell Member

  16. emmzee

    emmzee New Member

    Even if we were to believe a university in California recognized the Calamus degree (not likely) it's not possible that a legitimate school would send someone a "USA equivalent diploma" just because they earned an unaccredited degree elsewhere ... that's just not something that happens, right? :boggled:
     
  17. Koolcypher

    Koolcypher Member

    :bsflag: :laughing:
     
  18. Jahaza

    Jahaza Active Member

    I was looking for info on Calamus today and their web site is down. Wonder if they've folded?
     
  19. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

  20. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    If someone is really, really anxious to have a Calamus degree, there are plenty of places that will print them one for $50 or so. Or they can do it themselves for far less.
     

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