Nova the Top Producer of Black and Hispanic Doctorates

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  1. Gus Sainz

    Gus Sainz New Member

    Nova Southeastern University Ranked the Top Producer of African American and Hispanic Doctorates
    • FORT LAUDERDALE, FL—Nova Southeastern University is once again the number one producer of African American* doctorates among both traditionally white institutions and historically Black colleges and universities, as well as the number one producer of Hispanic doctorates based on survey results published in the July 29, 2004 edition of Black Issues in Higher Education.

      NSU has held first place nationally in the number of doctorates awarded to blacks for the last seven consecutive years.
    What’s the number two producer of African American doctorates? Argosy University – Sarasota Campus.
     
  2. Thanks for sharing this interesting bit of news with all of us. The more I learn the more I continue to be impressed with Nova, both in terms of the quality of their education and their ability to provide access to underserved populations in the South Florida area.
     
  3. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    I used to think it was Union who was #1, until it was pointed out to me (on this board) that NSU has that distinction. I think Union is #4 for African- Americans earning Ph.D.'s

    One has to wonder if NSU has made this a priority, or if it is a coincidental result of their location and market? (I suspect the former.) Either way, it's a helluva distinction. Good on them.
     
  4. Gus Sainz

    Gus Sainz New Member

    My formatting appears to have messed up the link to the press release. Click here for the correct link.
     
  5. uncle janko

    uncle janko member

    Interesting. Thanks for the stats.
     
  6. carlosb

    carlosb New Member

    Yet many of these qualified and badly needed individuals will be denied teaching positions because Nova is not AACSB. Interesting that the top two schools producing minority doctorates are not AACSB.

    By insisting on an AACSB doctorate a school is automatically disqualifying the DBAs from the Top 2 schools for minority doctorates.

    I wonder......

    Just my opinion
     
  7. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    You wonder what?

    If minorities, or anyone else in South Florida, wants AACSB they can go to Florida Atlantic University or Florida Gulf Coast University, both of which are relatively inexpensive state schools.

    The only odd thing to me is that Nova, widely believed in South Florida to be a superior school to those I just mentioned, hasn't pursued AACSB. Anyone know if they're interested in it, and if not why not?

    -=Steve=-
     
  8. carlosb

    carlosb New Member

    From Black Issues in Education:

    http://www.blackissues.com/Top1005.asp#

    See the DoctorateDegrees.pdf


    Total minority doctorate-Business, Management, Marketing & Related Support Services (2003 rank)

    Listing only the non-AACSB schools

    1 Nova Southeastern U
    2 Capella
    3 Alliant International U
    3 Walden (Alliant and Walden are tied for third)
    6 Regent University (tied for 6 with others)
    9 Argosy - Sarasota (tied for 9 with others)
    14 University of Phoenix - Online (tied for 14 with others)


    Twenty three schools listed. Didn't see Florida Atlantic University or Florida Gulf Coast University mentioned. Granted FGC is fairly new.

    By requiring AACSB only doctorates to teach a school has eliminated roughly half of the minority doctorate grads of 2003!

    Interesting

    Just my opinion
     
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  9. -kevin-

    -kevin- Resident Redneck

    "By requiring AACSB only doctorates to teach a school has eliminated roughly half of the minority doctorate grads of 2003!"

    We all make our own choices on schools. If these grads want to teach at AACSB schools then they know the established criteria. Either meet the standards or look elsewhere, since the schools that aren't AACSB far outnumber those that are, the opportunity is at least available.

    A more important evaluation would be to ascertain of those graduates you cite which really had any interest in teaching at an AACSB school, or teaching at all, prior to making the assertion that they have been eliminated from hiring consideration.
     
  10. carlosb

    carlosb New Member

    No, a more important evaluation would be how many more minorities would be interested in obtaining a doctorate and teaching at state funded schools if DL/RA only wasn't automatically discarded by many.

    Attitudes and career goals change. Some that may not care to teach at this point in time may change their minds later on. The fact remains that some AACSB schools require AACSB degrees even when it is not a requirement of AACSB accreditation.

    One would think that if the quality was that much different the AACSB would make it a requirement for doctorates to be AACSB accredited.

    But they don't.



    From the AACSB web site where minority representation is considered a problem:



    Just my opinion
     
  11. Andy Borchers

    Andy Borchers New Member

    Steve - I've talked with the Dean of SBE at Nova regarding accreditiation on several occasions.

    He is quite knowledgeable about AACSB as he formerly served as a dean at an AACSB school (Kansas State, I believe). Until the new AACSB standards came out in April 2003 (I believe), he said there was no economic way that NSU could go AACSB. The requirements for full-time faculty were simply too high.

    Since the April 2003 standards came out, NSU has been actively looking at them. Their approach with faculty - which includes some full-time as well as long term adjuncts - seems to fit with the new AACSB approach to "participating" faculty.

    At this point, I'm waiting to see what SBE does on two counts:

    1. The shift from a DBA to a PhD offering. I think this will come in time. It is a competitive response to folks like Capella.

    2. Movement on AACSB. I suspect that NSU will move at some point - but I don't know when.

    Regards - Andy

     
  12. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Thanks, Andy. Considering how well endowed they are nowadays, I'd think that if any Business school in South Florida could afford a flock of full time faculty it would be Nova! :)

    -=Steve=-
     

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