Has anyone had experience with Breyer State U.?...

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  1. MHS

    MHS New Member

    and if so, what can you share about? Thank you.
     
  2. Randell1234

    Randell1234 Moderator

  3. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator

    They have no legitimate accreditation, nor are they affiliated with any state government. I believe there is some connection with the equally non-wonderful Canyon College.

    There are much, much better choices available.
     
  4. colmustard

    colmustard New Member

    Breyer and Canyon

    Both schools have some really good and same faculty with terminal degrees from regionally accredited universities. Many of their courses are rigorous. No, they are not regionally accredited but that does not mean they are diploma mills.
     
  5. Randell1234

    Randell1234 Moderator

    Re: Breyer and Canyon

    Do you have experience with either school?
     
  6. uncle janko

    uncle janko member

    Paging Steve Levicoff...
     
  7. colmustard

    colmustard New Member

    Breyer State and Canyon

    Yes, I have written syllabi and taught graduate courses at both schools to students who have undergraduate degrees from regionally accredited schools. I have taught over twenty years at many other on-campus and online regionally accredited schools and still do. I have something to compare my experience at Breyer and Canyon.
     
  8. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator

    Steve Levicoff did a little research into Canyon College a few years back. It tells me all I need to know about them, and by association, Breyer State.
     
  9. colmustard

    colmustard New Member

    So?

    Please explain your astute observations.
     
  10. galanga

    galanga New Member

    facts about Breyer State

    Here is Breyer State's accreditation page.

    It is accredited by:The president of Breyer State is Dominick L. Flarey. The Executive Director of American Institute of Health Care Professionals Inc. is Dominck L. Flarey. The three schools accredited by CSCCS are Canyon College, Breyer State University, and "Southwest University of Health Science (candidate status)." Dominck L. Flarey is listed on the Canyon College faculty roster, as well as being the president of Breyer State and the executive director of the organization which controls this particular Breyer State/Canyon College accreditor.

    Accreditation Governing Commission-USA lists Richard Hoyer as its "Chief Accrediting Commissioner." A search of the DegreeInfo boards will show you lots of information about Richard J. Hoyer. Much of it is less than flattering.

    In the past, Breyer State degree recipients also received Saint Regis degrees. I do not know if this is still the case-- you might consider contacting Breyer State for current information about this point.

    G
     
  11. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator

    Re: So?

    They claim accreditation from a bogus accreditor. The only possible reason to do this is to fool people who don't know about legitimate vs. bogus accreditation. That's dishonest, ethically reprehensible, and just plain slimy.

    Oh, and their "campus" is a house. What else exactly do you need to know?
     
  12. colmustard

    colmustard New Member

    Dominick Flaherty

    He is the past editor of a national nursing journal, JONA's Healthcare Ethics, Law and Regulations and well thought of in the nursing profession and nursing academia. My point is that because one is part of a school not accredited does not therefore mean the individual is dishonorable or less than a scholar in their profession.
     
  13. JMS

    JMS New Member

    Thank you everyone...this is all that I need to know. It was not my intention to 'open a can of worms'.
     
  14. uncle janko

    uncle janko member

    Hi JMS: Welcome to the board. Don't worry about the can of worms--just don't eat 'em.

    There's much more tasty DL fare
    than worms mill'd fine by old Breyer.

    Wait a minute. Are you MHS or JMS?
     
  15. galanga

    galanga New Member

    ducks vs. bats

    If the DNA assay shows it is genetically indistinguishable from a duck then it might very well be a duck. Pretending that all one knows is that it can fly, and that bats are also known to fly does not make it any less a duck, even though bats are not ducks.
     
  16. uncle janko

    uncle janko member

    Hi galanga:

    Oh, g'wan--oops, I mean guano--yer just joshin' us agin.

    Hey, ho, po-ta-to
    mills grind on in Idaho.
     
  17. galanga

    galanga New Member

    what I meant to say...

    ...was this: imagine a robber shoots up a bank. The video cameras provide a clear record of what happened, and a dozen people recognize him as a bearded realtor who's posted his photo on billboards all over town. At the trial, the witnesses all testify that it was so-and-so, the hairy realtor whose picture is on those billboards. In addition, half of them worked with the perp the last time they bought/sold a house.

    Titanic is showing at movie theaters in the town. The defense attorney argues that Leonardo DiCaprio should be considered a suspect too, since he's on as many billboards as the realtor. The defense neglects other relevant facts (half the witnesses had worked with the bad guy, the bad guy had a beard,...) to make its point.

    The defense's argument does not stand up to close scrutiny.

    G
     
  18. uncle janko

    uncle janko member

    LMCarpathianAO!
     
  19. galanga

    galanga New Member

    now why did I think of that?

    I can't imagine what made me think of a real estate agent - diploma mill connection.

    G
     
  20. uncle janko

    uncle janko member

    No. It's that every house is not a home. Sometimes, a house is a university.
     

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