associate degree without high school

hi everybody. i donot have a high school diploma. can i still get a associate degree from excelsior college. if i can get a degree, then after having an associate degree wiyhout high school diploma will i be able to apply at traditional graduate schools?

 

I doubt such a path forward exists, at least on the accredited path.

Besides, for the amount of effort you are going to expend to get a 2 year degree, wouldn't it benefit you more to spend a little time up front and get your GED first? Besides helping you with getting into an accredited degree program, it will also help to prepare you academically for college.

 

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If you are going to get your Associates degree then this is a great path to take. What some states allow you to do is after you have taken 24 credits worth of courses at the college level, you can petition the state to issue a High School Diploma based upon successful completion of 24 college credits. This would be the way that I would go. I would not go and get your GED when you could accomplish two things at the same time. This is at least the situation with New York State. I am sure that other states have similar situations. This is something to at least think about. Good luck!

 

I know that you can get your associates and high school diploma at the same time here in Michigan. However, you can't go to graduate school with just an associates . You have to get a Bach Degree first. I could be wrong

Danielle
B.A Poli Sci (Michigan State)
M.A Education (UoP, current)

 

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Well, I don't know why someone would be thinking of going to graduate school without having the other degrees or hs diploma first. That is like getting the cart before the horse. I thought they were referring to getting an Associates without having a hs diploma. Anyway, I think that is the only way to answer the question. Have a good one.

 

The U of Alberta (brick and mortar} has prerequisite high school courses but does not require an actual diploma.

 

Greetings,


I graduated from High School about 2 years; and yes I earned an advanced high school diploma. When I applied to Troy State University for B.S in Computer Science; in the application I stated that I have a high school diploma. And I transfer about 70 credits from Military Training as well as CLEP, DANTES and etc. They never ask me to show them my high school transcript or high school diploma.

What I believe that you can trick the school by taking some CLEP and DANTES exam. Most of the schools require at least 16 college credits. And they do not need your high school transcript. I have my high school diploma on my desk, and I think it is just paper that College level never mention about it.

When you apply for graduate school for master degree; you need at least Bachelor degree, and some require you to take GRE exam. As "Philosophy" said....you cannot use your Associate degree for M.S or Ph.D. There is a small number of school doesn't require M.S for Ph.D; they just accept Bachelor degree.

Hope this help you out.

 

TEKMAN is right. after getting some cleps out of the way you can apply to a few colleges and i seriously doubt that anyone would ask about the high school diploma. on your application when they ask about education mark down how much college you have based on cleps and other tests. if they ask about high school just leave it blank. these things fall through the cracks alot of thr times.

or you may just ask them out right if they will accept college credit as good as a diploma.

whatever you do, don't lie. that will never help.

 

This must vary from College to College as the last school I transfered to absolutely had to have a H.S. Diploma before they could accept me. I had 90+ credits and a high gpa so the only issue was requiring either the diploma or transcript. Nothing else would subsitute. As luck would have it my H.S. was right in the middle of a move to a new campus so it was quite a bit of grief.

The GED is a single test I believe, so it would be easy for some one to knock out. Alternatively, I believe the Big 3 (COSC, Excelsior, TESC) will award a H.S. diploma on the way to an AA degree. Is there any reason not to knock it out quick so you never have to worry about it?

 

DaveHayden,

I believe that Ausmanpk2001 from South Asia; where distance education is a little more complicate. As the prev post reply ( http://forums.degreeinfo.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=14708 )

 

Hi

Thanks for the additional info Tekman. If he doesn't have the equivilent of a H.S. Diploma/GED and wants to go to Excelsior, why not get the H.S. Diploma along the way? It just seems like sound advice to me. Again, some colleges will absolutely require it.

 

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I would appreciate any links you might be able to provide to NYS or other states with this type of program.

And, yes, I wish I had heard of this *before* the book came out.





Tom Nixon

 

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This is how I got my GED in 1991 through the State of New York. My school handles all the paperwork as I was in a well-set up early admission program that routinely filled out the paperwork for most of it's students.

Here's a link to Pennsylvania's statement on the subject:
http://www.able.state.pa.us/able/cwp/view.asp?a=5&Q=39791#Anchor-11481

I must admit, I was beyond annoyed when I applied to a stae school and they insisted that i have a GED transcript sent in spite of my arguement that all the transcript said was "Issued on the basis of college credits" and they had official transcripts of the credits. Which is to say: they already had proof that I was at the every least automatically eligible for a GED. Personally, I think that requiring a GED of transfer students with more than enough credits for an automatic GED in their state is beaucratic nonsense.

Elizabeth

 

HSD

I left high school in my junior year and went to a community college without obtaining my HS diploma - I was bored and my counselor advised me to do it. Got my A.A. and B.A. degrees and years later I decided I wanted my HS Diploma.

I talked with the registrar at my old High School and they agreed to accept community college credits for the balance of credits I was missing. And they sent me my diploma. That was in California and I don't know if they still do it.

To obtain the GED (General Educational Development Certificate) you need to pass 5 separate tests - Writing, Reading, Science, Social Studies and Math. You can taken them at different times. More information at the American Council on Education.

Note: British and some Commonwealth universities will admit "mature students" who do not meet normal admissions requirements.

 

Philosophy,

Yes, getting an associates without a high school diploma was the question and this was another question:

"if i can get a degree, then after having an associate degree wiyhout high school diploma will i be able to apply at traditional graduate schools?"

And I answered that you would need a bachelors degree before going to graduate school

 

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The way that it works is that you would register with a community college - at least this is the way it is in New York. You would satisfactorily pass 24 credits worth of college credits. You could then petition the state -- or there is paperwork that you need to fill out and send with your college transcript. Once this is done, then you could get a High School Diploma -- at least this is what I have been told. So, my suggestion would be for you to contact a nearby community college, and see if someone knows about what steps you need to do in order to accomplish this. I just feel that for you to do a G.E.D. and then have to wait to work on your Associates to me personally, is foolish. However, if you are the type of student that likes to do one thing at a time, then this very well might be the route for you to consider. I think that it would be best to kill two birds with one stone -- and this way you could be on your way to an Associates degree, and then once you have accumulated 24 college credits -- then you can petition the state -- or whatever they call it and get your hs diploma. You might also find out how many credits you were lacking for hs and if it was one year, then you might be able to transfer these courses back to hs. However, this is a different policy depending upon the school district and the state you are dealing with. This is the best I can come up with. In terms of doing CLEP, and DANTES, (hope I spelled them right), I would just be careful not to jump too far ahead as well. You might need to go through some remedial courses in order to get the skills and knowledge that you need for college. There are deadlines, and much more is expected from you. This is why I would highly recommend community college. There is absolutely nothing wrong with a junior college, as this helps to save both money and they can give you the individual attention that people need when first starting out. Hope you make out well. Let us know what you find out.

 

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If you have an Associates degree, and a Bachelors degree, and they are from an accredited school -- this being nationally or regionally accredited, then I would doubt very much that a college official would give you a hard time in being able to gain entrance into a graduate program. This would also be contingent upon doing well on the GRE, or similar tests. There might be a question if someone doesn't see a high school diploma on the application. However, do you list your hs diploma on your resume when you have an Associates or Bachelors degree? I think what you need to do is to stop worrying so much about something that is so hypothetical and just determine what you need to do to get going on with college, and also to see how you can get your hs diploma done, with the suggestions that I pointed out to you. This doesn't mean that what I have recommended will work in your situation. However, I think that time is the most important commodity for you to consider in this equasion. What is going to help you to save both time and money? Hope you make out well.

 

Thabnks everybody. But ia m not a US resident i live in Pakistan. Thanks everybody for replies. any thoer suggestions will be highly welcomed.
Bye

 

Technically, it probably can happen....

I know for a fact that CTUonline <http://www.ctuonline.edu> made you sign a statement during the admissions process that said if you did not have a high school diploma or GED, my Masters could be cancelled. This was regardless of whether or not I had a bachelors.

But to answer your question, YES it is possible to obtain even a BA without having high school diploma, depending on:

1) Which college you are attending (such as excelsior).

2) How many college courses you've already obtained for transfer. (I think excelsior requires 9 credits minimum).

If you have prior service military, this shouldn't be a problem.

 

No High School

I did my first degree (Archaeology at Leicester University) with no 'O' or 'A' levels (High School Diploma.) I was ESN in school and left to start my apprenticeship at age 15. In my late 20s I did an access course at a local technical college and entered university as a mature student.
Roy Maybery