Is this my first post? Wanting to get Non-DETC Masters

Discussion in 'General Distance Learning Discussions' started by friendorfoe, Jun 21, 2004.

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  1. friendorfoe

    friendorfoe Active Member

    Okay here's the deal. I "attended" a DETC accredited school and will be recieving in short order a B.S. in Criminal Justice from College for Professional Studies. One of the Kaplan schools. My mistakes are:

    1.) I went to a DETC accredited school....live and learn. Not bad, but I could have done better.

    2.) I majored in C.J. Why? I found it interesting and nothing else seemed to be.

    Now I would like to, if possible, complete a Masters in C.J. to at least possibly teach it one day.....or be your next Chief or Police, thank you. Does anyone have some advice in this area? Would Kaplan be a good choice? How about University of Phoenix? I am not sure which schools will even consider my degree since it is DETC....but I thought I would ask here.

    Thanks.
     
  2. aic712

    aic712 Member

  3. TEKMAN

    TEKMAN Semper Fi!

  4. friendorfoe

    friendorfoe Active Member

    Very cool.......thanks guys for the quick reply.
     
  5. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator

  6. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    Move to Boston to become police chief and then you can be Bruce's boss! ;)

    P.S. the secret to being a good boss is listening to the smartest guy that works for you and doing whatever he says. Since you would be on Bruce's good side, you'd have it made.
     
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  7. decimon

    decimon Well-Known Member

    Bruce,

    Does it seem likely that friendorfoe will be either a teacher or practitioner of CJ without an appropriate background?
     
  8. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator

    Boston doesn't have a police chief, rather a civilian police commissioner, which I affectionately refer to as a hack-with-a-badge. :D
     
  9. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator

    There's really no telling.

    Police departments in the US have become so politicized that the most incompetent hack you could imagine can be appointed to lead a police department.

    Conversely, some of the best street cops I've ever worked with didn't even graduate high school.

    Like many things in life, credentials are only a portion of what should be considered.
     
  10. decimon

    decimon Well-Known Member

    I have no trouble believing the depts have become politicized. Except, perhaps, that they've always been political. I'm sure you know the difference in opinion between the Police Chiefs and the rank and file with regards gun control.

    The most effective cop I've seen was the local beat cop from my teens in NYC. A black guy known to all as "Benny" or "Big Ben." Liked by most and respected by most of the most racist. He knew how to get the kids on his side and used that rather than force to keep control. You can't learn that brand of psychology in school.
     
  11. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator

    Of course. Police chiefs/commissoners, most of whom don't even bother to carry a gun & haven't worked the streets in decades, if ever, are almost always rabid supporters of gun control. The street cops, who have to actually face people with guns, realize that gun laws do nothing except punish law-abiding citizens.

    A businessman who carries a gun to protect his day's receipts doesn't concern me. The career felon facing a "three strikes" conviction that's carrying a gun when I stop him for running a stop sign......that concerns me a great deal. Does anyone really think he's going to abide by any sort of gun law??

    When I was a kid, there was a beat cop where I used to hang-out. He was 6'6" and probably 300+lbs. He walked a beat because he had difficulty spending 8 hours behind the wheel of a cruiser. His nickname was "The Big Pig" (this was the early 70's), and we were terrified of him. I actually got a chance to work with him a few times before he retired, and it was the highlight of my career. As you mentioned, he was a Psychologist via life experience.
     
  12. John Bear

    John Bear Senior Member

    Bruce "...he was a Psychologist via life experience"

    John: One of the cleverest things I've heard of a police department doing was Minneapolis (or possibly it was St. Paul) in the 1960s, was hiring a very practical street-smart psychiatrist (Don Muhich) to give very practical training in counseling, mediation, dispute resolution, and so forth, to police officers (especially on the night beats), and to others who are often in contact with troubled or difficult people: bartenders, pump jockeys at all-night gas stations, bowling alleys, etc. When the city of Los Angeles hired him away to try to do the same thing there, the claim was that there had been noticeable reductions in juvenile crime and in repeat offenders.
     

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