Great Article on Diploma Mills in this week's Chronicle

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  1. DistantEd

    DistantEd New Member

  2. carlosb

    carlosb New Member

  3. galanga

    galanga New Member

  4. carlosb

    carlosb New Member

    Went to Valdosta State University and searched "malehorn"

    Came up with this:

    "Jack Malehorn
    The College of Business Administration at Valdosta State University is an AACSB accredited institution offering undergraduate and graduate degrees in Business Administration.
    http://www.valdosta.edu/coba/fac/mgnt/malehorn.htm"

    Priceless, simply priceless!!! :D

    Just my opinion
     
  5. clarky

    clarky New Member

    And still he is referred to as Dr. Jack Malehorn in the management dept. directory...I wonder for how long?
     
  6. carlosb

    carlosb New Member


    You are right. At 5:34 PM EDT 6/21/2004 at this page he is listed as Dr. :

    http://www.valdosta.edu/coba/fac/mgnt/

    Wonder how many of his students knew? Wonder how many trusted the "Gold Standard" AACSB to ensure instructor integrity and quality?

    Just my opinion
     
  7. RFValve

    RFValve Well-Known Member

    Why one faculty member with a bogus degree is such a big deal?

    If you think that one faculty member with bogus credentials is a problem. You should check the roster of Jones International University, a regional accredited online University.

    Their roster shows 4 faculty members with bogus credentials. One of them has a Masters and Doctorate from a bogus school. Just check them out.


    LAURIE A. FITZGERALD,
    Ph.D., Columbia Pacific University


    http://www.jonesinternational.edu/aboutJIU/faculty/profile.php?profile=199.12&pg=fctyteach&pt=

    OLIVER SCHWABE

    D.B.A., Fairfax University
    M.Sc., Fairfax University

    http://www.jonesinternational.edu/aboutJIU/faculty/profile.php?profile=34.12&pg=fctyteach&pt=

    ANTHONY F. MULLEN, Ph.D.
    Ph.D., Pacific Western University
    http://www.jonesinternational.edu/aboutJIU/faculty/profile.php?profile=208.12&pg=fctyteach&pt=

    ROBERT GOLDMAN, Ph.D., D.B.A.
    D.B.A., CSM Institute of Graduate Studies
    http://www.jonesinternational.edu/aboutJIU/faculty/profile.php?profile=15.12&pg=fctyteach&pt=


    Some other faculty members from the same roster do not show the origin of their degree so I guess they might also be bogus.
     
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  8. carlosb

    carlosb New Member

    My problem is the following:

    The dean of a "Gold Standard" AACSB school appears to think it is ok to list the fake Ph D on the school's web site. It appears it is ok to mislead the students into thinking this person has a legitimate doctorate.

    The article at the Chronicle is entitled:

    Institutionalizing a Fraud

    http://chronicle.com/prm/weekly/v50/i42/42a00901.htm



    "His boss doesn't think so. Kenneth L. Stanley, dean of the College of Business Administration, says he knew before hiring Mr. Malehorn that he had a fake Ph.D. "Hell, we knew it was worthless," says Mr. Stanley. "Give us a break!"

    "But he hired Mr. Malehorn anyway because, according to the dean, it's not uncommon for professors, or even top administrators, to have bogus credentials. "I've dealt with provosts with degrees from mail-order institutions here in the United States," Mr. Stanley says. (He declines to name any of those provosts or their institutions.)"

    "Contrary to the dean's insistence, however, it appears that Valdosta State does consider the degree valid. Why else would the professor be referred to as "Dr." in the bulletin that announced his hiring in 2002? Why else would he be listed as "Dr." in the university's telephone directory and on the management department's Web site? And why else would he be allowed to call himself "Dr. Jack Malehorn, Ph.D." when he contributes articles to the Journal of Business Forecasting?"


    http://www.aacsb.edu/accreditation/

    "AACSB International accreditation is the hallmark of excellence in management education."

    I do not see Jones International listed at the AACSB site. I do not agree with what they are doing but at least they are not claiming to have "the hallmark of excellence in management education!"

    Just my opinion
     
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  9. carlosb

    carlosb New Member

    At another "Gold Standard" school:


    From the same article:

    http://chronicle.com/prm/weekly/v50/i42/42a00901.htm

    "While experts on diploma mills -- broadly defined as unaccredited institutions that require students to do little or no work to earn degrees -- warn of the damage they do to the integrity of higher education, many satisfied customers say they get their money's worth. "Just the ability to put Ph.D. behind my name is what I was looking for," says Wayne J. del Corral, who teaches finance part time at Tulane University. "It'll make things a lot easier with respect to submitting papers to journals and so forth."

    "When asked if he thinks Lacrosse is a diploma mill, Mr. del Corral says it probably is. On the other hand, he explains, "it gave me what I needed."

    At least this person is being honest about the "degree."

    Tulane University AACSB accredited

    http://www.aacsb.edu/General/InstLists.asp?lid=2


    More than simply amazing!

    Just my opinion
     
  10. sulla

    sulla New Member

    Carlosb wrote:

    At Valdecosta, the degrees of Dr. Mel Schnake are also not listed either. I guess that means they could be fake too.

    -S
     
  11. cogent

    cogent New Member

    Outraged

    I posted my outrage in another place. I see many of you have beat me to it. In addition to all the nonsense I see here from ADMINISTRATORS of these schools I am further incensed by the fact I am a GRADUATE of Valdosta State University! This stuff has just cheapened my degree. You see, I actually BUSTED MY TAIL getting my Ed.S. from Valdosta State. Silly me, I could have just BOUGHT A DEGREE!!! Valdosta State needs to first boot that administrator quoted in the article. And then get rid of that phony "Ph.D." TODAY. I would love to be a fly on the wall at Valdosta right now... I would hope heads are rolling.
     
  12. clarky

    clarky New Member

    It seems "Mr" Jack Malehorn is no longer a Ph.D. That didn't take long...24hrs by my reckoning!
     
  13. RFValve

    RFValve Well-Known Member

    His DBA is legit, his degrees are listed here:

    http://www.valdosta.edu/~mschnake/
     
  14. RFValve

    RFValve Well-Known Member

    This is a very lame excuse, there is no need to have a PhD to publish and most of the papers are blinded before review in order to avoid any bias.
     
  15. clarky

    clarky New Member

    Interesting. Two hours later and he seems to be a Dr. again. Indecision...
     
  16. carlosb

    carlosb New Member

    This isn't an adjunct slipping into the cracks:

    Jack Malehorn
    Assistant Professor of Management

    From a posting from Andy defining the different instructor classifications:

    "Assistant Professor - the starting position for most faculty hired with a PhD or DBA. Typically, Assistant Profs are "tenure track" - that is, they are in a (typical) 6 year path to achieve tenure and usually promotion to Associate Professor."


    I have read how many of the degreeinfo group are working hard to juggle careers, families, and school in order to earn a RA or equal doctorate. Some of you want to become full time at a business school. I applaud you for your efforts.

    Then I read something like the article in the Chronicle.

    Quite sad, really.

    Just my opinion
     
  17. David Boyd

    David Boyd New Member

    My favorite quote:

    "Mr. Boyer founded Colgate University, in 1997, but had to change its name after lawyers for the real Colgate University, in New York, said it created confusion. Mr. Boyer said he took his institution’s name from the brand of toothpaste."
     
  18. -kevin-

    -kevin- Resident Redneck

    sad is the justification in not only the individual's mind but from the school, accreditor, etc...

    I would like to see the different accreditors take action, especially since the schools in question seem reticent to do so...
     
  19. David Boyd

    David Boyd New Member

    The RA accreditors have no power to take action. RA standards for faculty are very broad (as they need to be). Most simply say that "faculty must GENERALLY have degrees from accredited institutions" or something similar.
     
  20. clarky

    clarky New Member

    Oh boy, they are really wrestling with this one...he's back to being "Mr." again!
     

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