Easy PhD

The easy PhD....is there such a thing (without buying it from a mill)?


Just Curious....

 

Yes, IMO a PhD in any area that you have a lot of experience and contacts, where you might be considered one of the main experts. Of course it might be difficult finding a school to work with on the program.

Corrolary the hardest would be in a field that you have no experience or previous knowledlge in.

 

Honorary degrees.

 

I tried for an easy JD by offering to buy one from a friend who isn't using his. He was pretty sure it doesn't work that way.

Oh well.

 

Yes, of course. Perhaps the hardest part would be gaining admission to the program.
Jack

 

An easy PhD - why would you want it?

 

There is no easy legit PhD. However, some
schools are more flexible than others. North Central seems to be a flexible school and accredited.

 

It depends on your definitions--Your definition of "easy," your defintion of "PhD," your definition of "mill," and your definition of "buying it."

"The," "is there such a thing," "without," and "from" I think we can agree upon.

Unless, of course, we have a disagreement on what the defintion of "is" is.

 

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Jeff,

She was looking for an easy PhD, not an easy JD!



--Fortunato

 

The generally accepted wisdom, which I totally share, is that a PhD in education (or an EdD) is really not comparable in difficulty to a PhD in any other field. A PhD in higher education is usually used by college administrators to differentiate themselves from the custodians, although intellectually I doubt that the difference is great.

So, in general, if one wants a PhD that is easy, pointless as that is, any education program is far, far less rigorous that any other and the admissions standards are correspondingly low.

There are exceptions; I even personally know some.

Those who can, do.
Those who can't, teach.
Those who can't teach, teach teachers.

 

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The way I heard it was

Those who can, do
Those who can't, teach.
Those who can't teach, teach gym
Those who can't teach gym, become administrators.

The crazy thing is in the secondary school system where I went to school, it seemed to be absolutely true... at the time, there were three high schools, and at two of the three (and maybe the third, not sure), the principals were former gym teachers, and generally not terribly well looked upon by either faculty or students.

Not to knock on gym teachers, but it does seem like a classic example of the Peter Principle at work.

 

I'm not sure if there is an "easy PhD" but there are flexible programs that make it easier on the student. For instance, I di 2 quarters at Capella University for my PhD. While the education was great, the lack of exact transfers from my Masters degree, and scheduling the colloquias was driving me crazy, and was not very "easy" to say the least. I then transferred to NCU and am now 2/3rds done. They are much more flexible and are much easier to work with.

So I guess that I would not be looking for an "easy" PhD program (I'm not sure one exists), but I would look at a more flexible one.

 

The version I had heard (and generally find true) is:

Those who can. do.
Those who can't, teach.
Those who won't are employed by the govenment.

 

Uhh, guys, do we really need to spend our day bashing teachers?





Tom Nixon

 

wellll... I meant mine in fun, it was actually told to me by an administrator with a sense of humor. I certainly don't think of it as truth, in much the same way people say "close enough for government work"

 

What you describe and the quarter-based tuition, instead of unit hour-based tuition, pushed me away from Capella and toward Touro.

Dave

 

"The version I had heard (and generally find true) is:

Those who can. do.
Those who can't, teach.
Those who won't are employed by the govenment."

I normally take these insults with a smile

However,

For anybody who wants to comment about government workers (oops, lack of) take a look at:

www.darpa.mil

http://www.darpa.mil/dso/personnel/persons.htm

or

http://www.darpa.mil/MTO/RADPrograms.html

hover on personnel to get to bios

let me know when your credentials can match some of the folks in this agency. Remember, these guys, not Al Gore, gave us the internet so that we could post such wit.

I know far more good ones than bad but hey, since I teach, coach, and am a government worker I ought to get some kind of award for being a triple slacker.

 

A related question -- how about a PhD that is:
open in admission?
flexible in delivery?
rigorous?
relatively inexpensive?
recognized by the public?
AND totally respected by those in academics?

I suspect not.

The funny thing about doctorates is that there is always going to be someone who looks down on yours -- no matter where you got it or what you got it in. MDs don't think that PhDs are real doctors. PhDs think that EdDs are lazy. JDs shouldn't be called "doctor" because they aren't. ThDs don't have the background of PhDs. But "PhDs are a dime a dozen these days" and a real doctorate is a higher DSc or a DD (preferably English) -- or a German DrTheo. DCs, DDSs, and DPMs are a joke because they don't really do doctoral level work at all. No one is sure what to do with a DA, DPT, DHA, DBA, DMD, or a DMA. Of course, DMins are glorified masters degrees.

Then there is a pecking order based on particular schools and departments and advisors. (The EdD from Stanford trumps a PhD from Cal State LA).

Does this mean these other degrees are useless. Absolutely not! But if you get sucked into the game you will be.

 

I know what to do with a DMA (Musical Arts) -- I want one just so I can have a pink hood...

...just have to finish this *&^%^* BA in performance and find an MM that'll have me first.