Birmingham http://www.cels.bham.ac.uk/prospectus/ODL/odlTransCours.htm There's a certificate available from CSPS at NYU http://www.scps.nyu.edu/departments/certificate.jsp?certId=157 Angela
The program in Birmingham seems like good money. Speaking of money can anyone tell me how to figure out the dang blasted tuition for the MA as an international student from this website? http://www.postgraduate.bham.ac.uk/fee.htm Is the fee £7,950?? The other question, and be patient with me it may be a humdinger of a silly one, but in the immortal words of Forrest Gump, "Stupid is as stupid does," is it true that the British government does not recognize distance degrees?
Forgive my plodding but you may need to be more specific with your question. Since the British government "accredits" all British universities (I know it's not accreditation in the American sense) and since these DL degrees are offered by recognized, *accredited* universities, it would seem that the British government does in fact recognize these degrees. Jack *I guess "royal charter" is the correct term?
I asked only because a longtime buddy of mine said that DL degrees were not recognized in the UK he never went into any specifics, I am sure you guys here on the forum would know more than him thats why I wanted to check. Thanks for the reply it makes all the sense in the world.
If DL degrees are not recognized in the UK then the Univeristy of London is in for a surprise as they have doing that for a looooong time (read external in the UK).
Your friend is sadly mistaken. The UK government recognises all legal degrees, regardless of the mode of instruction. We've had a Prime Minister with a London External LLB (he got a third), and a previous Labour government founded the Open University. If your friend means that distance degrees don't get you student tuition assistance in the UK, then he's quite right. There is no tuition assistance for *any* part-time study in the UK that I know of, which is a constant bone of contention in this country. As for fees, it'll probably be the full international fees, but payable over the life of the programme. Angela
David Lloyd George (PM 1916-1922) He grew up in a small town in north Wales and didn't have the money or opportunity to make it to university fuill time in the 1880s, so became an articled clerk and did his LLB via the London external programme. UK degrees are classified First, Upper Second, Lower Second, Third and Pass. A third would be the equivalent of ending up with a GPA of about 2.0. To be fair to Lloyd George, he wasn't alone. Back in those days, the lack of decent tutorial options (unless you were at one of the colleges tha later mutated into one of the great civic universities) meant that really bad results on the external degree were not uncommon. Angela
Thanks for the hisrotical/political trivia ! In their brochure, the UoL have a female MP from somewhere in the Midlands. Actually, everyone say it is much harder to excel on the External Programme, since tuition lacks. My doctorate advisor once told me though: what's most important about the doctorate is to finish it. It doesn't really matter with which grade, as long as your title says "doctor" at the end (OK - because in this forum this might raise some eye brows: no, it doesn't refer to degree mill doctorates. My current brick-and-mortar institution is probably one of the best in the country where I live, with more than 30 Nobel Prize holders, and many other renowned graduates ...). NB: You don't have to speal American to me - I am only on this forum because there is a high-level discussion of DL here - I am not American.
