CIS degree of Excelsior College?

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  1. Jeong Jongpil

    Jeong Jongpil New Member

    Hi, everyone.
    I want to know how to match the subject of MCSE, MCDBA certification to CIS requirements? Lower Lever or Upper Level?
    I visited the college website. But I couldn't find anything.
    And I'll take the ICCP certification test. How that match to degree requirment???
    help me~
    Thanks in advance.
     
  2. Lawrie Miller

    Lawrie Miller New Member

    Excuse me Jongpil, but that has been answered in the other thread YOU started on "Excelsior College", where you asked essentially the same questions a few days ago. There you will find a breakdown of credit awarded for the MCDBA and a series of links to excelsior web pages that give book and verse on Microsoft, ICCP, CompTIA, CLEP, DANTES, RCE/ECE, GRE and other exams.

    Let me post the data here, again..........
     
  3. Jeong Jongpil

    Jeong Jongpil New Member

    My question is "how would the credits be distributed?"
     
  4. Lawrie Miller

    Lawrie Miller New Member

    Credit distribution within the degree is detailed in the middle link listed in my reply http://www1.excelsior.edu/itweb/degrequire.htm

    and the upper and lower division credit earned for individual exams is detailed in the other two links.
     
  5. Mark_R

    Mark_R New Member

    According to the Excelsior 2001 "Student Guide to Credit by Examination" the following MS exams are upper level credit:

    70-015, 019, 056, 059, 079, 087, 100.

    All others are lower level. All of them are CIS Electives... Excelsior will not accept any of them in the CIS Core category (per an email from my advisor).

    According to the "Excelsior 2000-2001 Academic Calendar and Important Student Information" the following ICCP exams qualify for upper level credit:

    804 (Communications)
    807 (Data Resource Management)

    813 (Software Engineering) and 814 (Systems Programming) count as upper level if used towards CIS Elective, and lower level if used towards CIS Core.

    805 (Core), if you are thinking of taking it, counts as 3 lower level and 9 free electives... not a very good deal unless you are short on Free Electives.

    Most of the catalog-type info on the difficult-to-navigate Excelsior site is in the form of PDF files.
     
  6. Mark_R

    Mark_R New Member

    Oops, overlooked one...

    Add ICCP Exam 816 (Systems Development) as upper level credit.
     
  7. Lawrie Miller

    Lawrie Miller New Member

    Who said they would? And that last point was clearly stated in my initial post to Jongpil, in the original thread. The policy is also quite *clearly* stated in the Excelsior literature (that's how I knew). If you go to the link I quoted in the original post, and quoted again, in the subsequent post in this thread, you will see it is stated that vendor certification exam credit accrues to CIS electives, not core. You can't miss the statement.

    Here's the link again: http://www1.excelsior.edu/itweb/degrequire.htm


    It is also possible to use the excellent "Credit Tracker" on the Excelsior web site which will work out the various possible credit permutations for you. No thought required. I tried several different combinations of exams to find the least expensive grouping.

    See - http://www1.excelsior.edu/bin/itweb/itcts02

    All in all, I do not think it possible the requirements for this degree could have been made clearer. Excelsior have used every means at their disposal to effectively delineate and disseminate the essential information. It's all there for anyone to read.

    AND . . . <drum roll> Excelsior NOW GIVES CREDIT FOR THE MICROSOFT 200 SERIES EXAMS. That is, for the new Windows 2000 MCP/MCSE/MCDBA certification examinations.

    Now that didn't take long, did it?
     
  8. dlstudent

    dlstudent New Member

    Since there are only 9 units worth of upper division "Technology Core" exams available from ICCP, and the degree requires 15 upper level Technology Core units to graduate, where are there 6 additional upper division Technology Core credit available that meet the requirements of the degree?
    Since the MCSE exams that give upper division credit, do not count towards the needed Technology Core, what does?
    I do not see how to complete the entire required 15 upper division Technology Core units by examination.
     
  9. Lawrie Miller

    Lawrie Miller New Member

    Hi DLstudent,

    There are in fact 5 upper division (UD) "course equivalent" exams available through ICCP. It gets confusing because one of the Excelsior publications only lists 4 UD exams.

    Go here to check and count available CIS core UD credit available through ICCP exams:
    http://www.excelsior.edu/exold/pdf/cat_exam.pdf


    Try also the Excelsior CIS program credit tracker. This will automatically tabulate your existing credit, any deficits outstanding, and will give you the bottom line skinny on what credit you still need and in what category. It isn't perfect, but it's good for checking against your own calculation, and for trying different exams scenarios when attempting to create the most efficient and economical credit-gathering strategy.


    BS CIS Credit Tracker can be found here:
    http://www1.excelsior.edu/itweb/itcts01.html
     
  10. dlstudent

    dlstudent New Member

    http://www1.excelsior.edu/itweb/credexam.htm

    Excelsior made it confusing by posting the info at the link above.

    That link shows both Systems Programming and Systems Engineering exams as lower level credit (where the pdf file shows them as upper level).

    It does't map out which specific 5 of the 7 core requirements (Intro to Computers, Computer Architecture or Assembly Language, High-Level Structured Language, Database Concepts, Data Structures or Data Communications or Telecommunications, Operating Systems, and Systems Analysis & Design.)each examination meets. I can guess and assume by what the exam names sound like they should cover, but I would want to be sure.
    Since the information they provide at one place conflicts with info at another, one has to be wrong. I also would want to be sure that the PDF is the correct info vs the other web site.
     
  11. Lawrie Miller

    Lawrie Miller New Member

    Indeed, and if you are still in doubt, there can be no substitute for guidance from Excelsior College itself. Your next stop/email/phonecall will be directed there perhaps.
     

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