The truth about accreditation (according to Richard Hoyer)

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  1. George Brown

    George Brown Active Member

  2. Peter Chin

    Peter Chin New Member

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    Foreign degrees are not valid in the US and are inferior in quality to US degrees.
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    The third falsehood is that degrees earned outside of the United States are not as good, or not as legitimate as a regionally ''accredited'' US degree. Not true.

    Most foreign countries require that all colleges and universities be licensed, registered and/or accredited by the Ministry of Education (a government agency), which in most cases is much more stringent that our non-governmental accrediting process.
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    Probably true with exception of Liberia.

    Peter Chin
     
  3. PaulC

    PaulC Member

    The myth continues...

    For being a man with all the answers, he got at least one of them wrong.

    Both Harvard and Yale are regionally accredited by the New England Association of Schools and Colleges. In addition, both universities benefit from multiple professional accreditation as it relates to the various programs and schools within each institution.

    Yes, Virginia, Harvard and Yale are accredited.

    I know he says his intent is to simply educate, but I think his style and bent has left the ignorant with no greater context and understanding of the problem than before they read his collection of thoughts.

    A single example is his reference to “A state licensed college or university is not legitimate without accreditation.” He goes on to say that many colleges and universities throughout the US receive state license or authority to grant degrees. However, this has no bearing on their legitimacy. The implication from his response is that if you are state licensed, you are okay. This would seriously mislead an HR person that was seeking clarity. He missed is mark in many ways.
     
  4. galanga

    galanga New Member

    ...and n-Dr. Hoyer on regional accreditation

    Oh yes, it is an informative document, isn't it? It travels in finest circles, also living on the St. Elias School of Orthodox Theology and Universal Accrediting Commission sites.

    But there's more! According to the Hawaii Office of Consumer Protection,
    As a result, it seems likely that statements from ACU reflect the views of Richard J. Hoyer. Here is an explanation of regional accreditation in the ACU catalog (emphasis is mine):
    So there you have it.

    G
     
  5. John Bear

    John Bear Senior Member

    Galanga quotes Hawaii as saying, "In April 2001 [Bruce] Obenour again wrote saying that Hoyer was the chairman/CEO of ACU and that Jon Chasse was the previous owner...."

    For the record, I am fairly confident that Bruce Obenour is the founder/proprietor of the alt.education.distance site.
     
  6. uncle janko

    uncle janko member

    Needless to say, "St Elias" has absolutely nothing to do with any canonical Orthodox Christian jurisdiction and would be regarded as spurious by any canonical Orthodox hierarch. Note also that legitimate Orthodox seminaries (Christ the Savior, Holy Cross, St Tikhon's, St Vladimir's, and Jordanville) all grant the MDiv, which this odd institution does not. Its "bishop" is an episcopus vagans. Beware.
     

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