Certified Master Of Business Administration

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  1. vnazaire

    vnazaire Member

    Anyone heard about the Certified Master of Business Administration examination given by Prometric

    They charge 300 or 400 bucks ; the objective : to give a common measuring stick to all graduates of MBA schools. Similar to a CPA examination in measuring graduates of different schools with a common standard.

    Is it worth it
     
    vnazaire, Apr 20, 2004
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  2. Dennis Ruhl

    Dennis Ruhl member


    No.
     
    Dennis Ruhl, Apr 20, 2004
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  3. Guest

    Guest Guest

    This has been discussed here before. I too have to think it is not worth it.

    If your MBA is accredited by either of the 2 recognized agencies then you don't need any other forms and papers.
     
    Guest, Apr 20, 2004
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  4. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    No!

    Let me add my voice to the chorus of "No!"

    I plan to do an MBA next and wouldn't bother with this exam even if it were free. This strikes me as a transparent attempt for a company to try to manufacture a "credential" that meets no outstanding need so as to capitalize on selling examinations and exam prep materials.

    -=Steve=-
     
    SteveFoerster, Apr 20, 2004
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  5. w_parker

    w_parker New Member

    No...

    As others have said, this is an attempt to sell an exam and prep material. What's next, certified bachelors degree exam? No thanks.
     
    w_parker, Apr 22, 2004
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  6. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    The key to these kinds of things is industry acceptance. There is none. Despite some recent publicity (at a curious, not investigative, level), there seems not to be any resonance regarding this concept. If there is evidence to the contrary, I'd like to see it.

    Another factor to consider is that this is a test based on what? One administers such tests to measure learning based upon learning objectives. Which ones? There are hundreds (thousands?) of MBA programs, many differing mightily. How could such a test address this?

    In regulated professions, curricula tend to be rather standardized. The variability found often occurs beyond the scope of the particular licensing exam. But there is no such driving force for MBA's; no one is creating and enforcing standards of practice, study areas, and the like.

    Finally, is there any indication that employers value this "certification"?
     
    Rich Douglas, Apr 22, 2004
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  7. GUNSMOKE

    GUNSMOKE New Member

    RICH HIT IT ON THE HEAD!

    There are always great ideas out there, but if there is no demand for a product, you have to create it. In this case that has not happened and Rich scored a bullseye on why, there simply is NO standard MBA! I suspect they hoped to create a standard with this product, but the MBA does not lend itself to standarization. And lets hope that the degree options continue to expand and focus NOT standardize!
     
    GUNSMOKE, Apr 22, 2004
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  8. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    BAin4hours? One can dream....

    A single pair of "baccalaureate equivalence" exams (one for general eds, the other for major) would be awfully convenient though, wouldn't it? :D

    -=Steve=-
     
    SteveFoerster, Apr 22, 2004
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  9. -kevin-

    -kevin- Resident Redneck

    while I see no value in another certification; to piggyback on Steve's comment, if there were competency exams for academic credit and leading to the award of an MBA for one test...count me in :D

    What do we have to do to get the additional AACSB accreditation?
     
    -kevin-, Apr 22, 2004
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  10. mcjon77

    mcjon77 Member

    Re: BAin4hours? One can dream....

    The problem with creating a general education test is simple:
    Name one class that every college student has taken. Not one subject, one class. I can't even think of a single class that everyone in my university has taken, let alone all universities. This MAY be easier for undergraduate professional degrees, but for your standard liberal arts degrees there is just too much variation. The closest you could come would be a test on basic math and reading, as well as critical thinking.

    Jon
     
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  11. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator

    Re: Re: BAin4hours? One can dream....

    Every legitimately accredited school that I've looked into required some variation of Composition 101 & 102.
     
    Bruce, Apr 22, 2004
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  12. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Re: Re: BAin4hours? One can dream....

    If there is one, it's probably English 101.

    But I see your point. I suppose in this scenario that it would have to follow the regional accreditation track of English 1 and 2, some math, some humanities, some social science, some real science, etc.

    But then, it becomes a test for people too lazy to take five CLEP exams.

    Also, I'm not actually arguing for the adoption of such a pair of omnibus examinations!

    -=Steve=-
     
    SteveFoerster, Apr 22, 2004
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  13. vnazaire

    vnazaire Member

    vnazaire, Apr 23, 2004
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  14. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Excuse me, but we all looked at this "credential" last time it was brought up here. (Previous thread)

    It's just that it doesn't pass the straight face test.

    -=Steve=-
     
    SteveFoerster, Apr 23, 2004
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  15. Carlos M. Lorie

    Carlos M. Lorie New Member

    Hi Steve

    Hi Steve

    How is Everglades College doing with the SACS accreditation?

    Carlos
     
    Carlos M. Lorie, Apr 23, 2004
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  16. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Everglades University Update

    As I understand it, they're getting all their ducks in a row for application to SACS later this year. If you're waiting for them to be regionally accredited, don't hold your breath. I hear it may be up to two years.

    They've been operating from the same building as Keiser College's main campus in Fort Lauderdale for a while, but are moving to their own campus in Boca Raton next month -- hooray, more room for us! :D

    -=Steve=-


    --
    Stephen H. Foerster
    Keiser College
     
    SteveFoerster, Apr 23, 2004
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  17. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    There is: the Heriot-Watt MBA. No coursework, no projects, no classes, no papers, no exercises, no lessons at all. Just the study materials and the examinations. You pay for the study materials, but you don't have to study them. (Although this will increase your chances on the exams.) It is possible to sit for all 9 exams in one session and graduate. Not probable, but possible.
     
    Rich Douglas, Apr 23, 2004
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  18. Guest

    Guest Guest

    If I recall Dr. Bear correctly one person has done it.
     
    Guest, Apr 23, 2004
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  19. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    The devil is in one particular detail

    There is: the Heriot-Watt MBA. No coursework, no projects, no classes, no papers, no exercises, no lessons at all. Just the study materials and the examinations.

    Well, yes, those things, and, of course, the FEES.

    You pay for the study materials, but you don't have to study them. (Although this will increase your chances on the exams.) It is possible to sit for all 9 exams in one session and graduate. Not probable, but possible.

    I understand that Heriot-Watt isn't doing their MBA programme out of the goodness of their hearts, but considering that it's just a big book and a test the price you pay seems awfully high.

    I mean, compare this with Excelsior College Examinations. Or CLEP and DSST for that matter.

    -=Steve=-
     
    SteveFoerster, Apr 23, 2004
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  20. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Re: The devil is in one particular detail

    You might be missing my point. H-W provides a full compliments of materials for each course. It's not just an examination fee. But because there are no assignments, one could--theoretically--just sit for the exams. I illustrated it because of the utterly difficult nature of such an undertaking, and why it wouldn't be very feasible to have a master's degree by examination. But it could be done.

    The H-W MBA is really quite a bargain, under $10K, IIRC.
     
    Rich Douglas, Apr 23, 2004
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