U of Pretoria 1-year PhD Program

Discussion in 'General Distance Learning Discussions' started by zvavda, Apr 8, 2004.

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  1. zvavda

    zvavda New Member

  2. George Brown

    George Brown Active Member

    This flies in the face of standard PhD candidature, and really shocks me. How the hell can a GAAP institution promote and offer such a program? I note the PhD has a maximum of 4 years duration, which must be their part-time mode. But normal full time candidature is 3-4 years full time. How is it possible to produce a 100k+ thesis in a year, and provide a significant and original contribution to a body of knowledge?

    Cheers,

    George
     
  3. CLSeibel

    CLSeibel Member

    Quite intriguing!

    In the Faculty of Theology, we are required to register for a minimum of two years.
     
  4. Michael

    Michael Member

    Hi, Cory,

    Did you get the private message I sent you?
     
  5. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    No coursework, all dissertation

    From what I've read around here, it looks like in the South African model that coursework is handled at the Master's level and that the dissertation is all that there is in the doctoral program. IOW, once you are accepted and register, you're ABD at a South African university.

    In that case, I can maybe see a dissertation being ready in a year -- if one works exclusively and assiduously. But certainly not necessarily.

    -=Steve=-
     
  6. George Brown

    George Brown Active Member

    Re: No coursework, all dissertation

    Yes, this is similar to the Australian, UK et al model - Masters by full research, or full coursework or a combination. But surely the Masters and PhD are technically both separate awards? I really cannot see how one can be expected to perform empirical, 'ground breaking' research in a year and write up a thesis which should be equivalent in academic rigour to a PhD thesis undertaken under a normal 3/4 year canditature. Also, given that the U of Pretoria PhD theses 'should' be externally examined, I would be very interested to see how these are compared to a standard model.

    Cheers,

    George
     
  7. zvavda

    zvavda New Member

    World fastest education system!!!

    Study duration time in south african university,

    University of Witwatersrand, Johannesburg
    BSc (Eng) 4 year full-time
    MEng 1 year full-time or 2 years part-time
    PhD 2 years full-time or 4 years part-time

    Technikon Witwatersrand, Johannesburg
    B. Tech 3 year (2 year couse, 1 year trainee)
    M. Tech 1 year full-time or 2 years part-time
    D. Tech 2 year full-time or 3 years part-time

    University of Pretoria, Pretoria
    B.Eng 4 year
    M.Eng 2 year
    PhD 1 year

    You got Doctor of Technology while student in another just got Master degree!!!!!
     
  8. zvavda

    zvavda New Member

    Re: Re: No coursework, all dissertation

    I will not consider south african model look like Australian, UK or NZ anyway. 1-year PhD can be show that:
    1. south african standard lower that Australian, UK or NZ .
    or 2. south african student clever than Australian, UK or NZ
     
  9. roysavia

    roysavia New Member

    Impossible to accomplish. A DLitt et Phil degree can take as long as seven years to complete. Even a full time student would require a minimum of three years to conduct the literature review and write the manuscript. Seems a bit far-fetched.
     
  10. Bill Grover

    Bill Grover New Member

    In the Unizul Faculty of Theology and Religion Studies the D.Th. , done by research only unless deficiencies need to be made up, cannot be awarded before two years after the Master of Theology is completed. As I am mostly retired, I put quite a good amount of time in on the dissertation. I don't see how it be done well , at least in my area, even working full time, in one year or even two. I am hoping to be done in three.
     
  11. uncle janko

    uncle janko member

    Nope, this sure isn't consistent with my awareness of some other SA universities. But as to your question if South Africans are cleverer than Brits, Australians, or New Zealanders--

    (some hon. members) Oh! Oh!

    (other hon. members) Hear! Hear!

    (one hon. member) Quack! Quack!




    Ag shame, ek is totaal bosbefok. Don't mind me.
     
  12. trigo

    trigo New Member

    In my experience in Education, I do not believe that any one race is more intelligent or superior than another. It's just a matter of opportunities given in foundational years to the people of a particular country. Again Any race can have its superiorly intelligent people but it can also have the most lesser intelligent persons.
    As to SA universities, what happens for a particular department in U of Pr. does not happen in the other SA univ nor even in other UofP departments like in the Dept of Theology (CLSeibel's post).
    (Just an opinion) So I think there's no need to panic.
     
  13. uncle janko

    uncle janko member

    Hey Trigo: if you want race-baiting, you've got the wrong preacher. South Africans come in several different races. I was just observing the potentially fizzy nature of zvavda's clever question. Whatever you do, don't bring up rugby. Strong men will cry.
     
  14. zvavda

    zvavda New Member

    Sorry uncle that my mistake!! only pretoria student in 1-year PhD program O.K.
     
  15. zvavda

    zvavda New Member

    I never mean to talk about race anyway. Ethnic groups in SA compose of black 75.2%, white 13.6%, Colored 8.6%, Indian 2.6%.

    I thought, why SA need only 6 year after high school to hold doctor's degree because of SA Life expectancy at birth is only 46.56 years, while German system need so much year to hold doctor's degree because of Life expectancy at birth of German is
    78.42 years.

    Does it make sence?
     
  16. uncle janko

    uncle janko member

    Hi Teerayoot: I appreciate your posts, your sense of humour, and your humane view of the human condition. Best wishes, Janko

    Just don't bring up rugby. It's too awful to talk about.
     
  17. Mike Albrecht

    Mike Albrecht New Member

    Then how about Aussie rules football, the real mans sport!
     
  18. trigo

    trigo New Member

    Well personally I like the All-blacks (NZ)... (But UJanko says not to talk about this.
    But hey I do agree with you all... it's a global world now....
    In fact the Champion's league used to be dominated by Real madrid and the Italian teams.... now, going for the semis are Chelsea, Monaco, Porto, and Deportivo.... and they all contain players of different nationalities....
    (so basically it's now competency that rules?)
     
  19. Mike Albrecht

    Mike Albrecht New Member

    Yeah, but they all play that siisy rugby game, not Aussie rules!

    And yes I have played rugby, I was second string right prop foer the the Vancouver Rowing Club's D squad in 1981 (got the seatshirt to prove it - wife threw out the sweater due to blood stains).
     
  20. uncle janko

    uncle janko member

    Ag, I just find the uncontrolled weeping a bit unnerving. Talk about whatever you want. Happy Easter, guys.
     

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