what criteria Oregon degree granting use to determine the Legitimacy of a school

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  1. Migara

    Migara member

    Does any one know what criteria Oregon degree granting authority use to determine the legitimacy and list different schools as diploma mills? I can’t understand how Oregon degree granting authority lists so many schools as diploma mills.
    There seems to be some good even though which some of them are unaccredited has being labeled as diploma mills. Take for an example, Fairfax University, if the FU started its enrollments back in 1986, and here we are in Year 2004, why haven’t any authorities tried to close it if it’s a diploma mill way back from its inception? How long it takes the relevant authorities to action and a close a school if it deemed to be a diploma mill? 18 years? Or would that be longer?

    Food for thought for those who are expert in this field of education, distance learning. Any thought Dr. John Bear?

    Migara
     
  2. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    IIRC, It really is quite simple. Read the law, it indicates that the unaccredited degrees should be equivalent to standard degrees. This equivalency to be determined by the ODA.
     
  3. uncle janko

    uncle janko member

    Migara, are you a student or employee at Fairfax?
     
  4. Migara

    Migara member

    I am neither student nor an employee of fairfax. I live in New Zealand. currently studying at Massey University (www.massey.ac.nz)
     
  5. tcnixon

    tcnixon Active Member


    For someone not related to Fairfax, you certainly seem to have a lot to say about them. There are thousands of legitimate schools, more it seems of illegitimate ones, and yet you have an amazing interest in that one particular entity.

    Seems unusual to me.



    Tom Nixon
     
  6. Migara

    Migara member

    to me it seems a like a good school, just i like CCU.
     
  7. Dennis Ruhl

    Dennis Ruhl member

    Just Alan Contreras and a bag of chicken bones.
     
  8. Mike Albrecht

    Mike Albrecht New Member

    A breif search of the ODA site provides the answer: http://www.osac.state.or.us/oda/faq.html

    Aside: It is amazing how easy it is find these answers.

     
  9. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    Re: Re: what criteria Oregon degree granting use to determine the Legitimacy of a school

    Dennis suffers from a relatively mild case of unaccredited degreeitis. Hopefully if CCU is accredited by the DETC, the healing process will begin.
     
  10. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    Almost all of Migara's posts are about Fairfax University or at least mention Fairfax University in a positive light.

    Migara, you have been asked this a number of times but have always dodged the question, what is your connection to Fairfax? Or if you deny any connection, why do you come here as a covert Fairfax apostle?
     
  11. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Does Fairfax now send forth apostles? ;)
     
  12. Dennis Ruhl

    Dennis Ruhl member

    Re: Re: Re: what criteria Oregon degree granting use to determine the Legitimacy of


    I don't have any unaccredited degrees.
     
  13. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    Re: Re: Re: Re: what criteria Oregon degree granting use to determine the Legitimacy of

    Thank goodness, I'd hate to see you with worse than a mild case of unaccredited degreeitis. :D
     
  14. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    Apparently. ;)
     
  15. Police

    Police member

    Hello friends, sorry about my English.

    I want to know if the Oregon inventory survives a process in a Court of Justice. Florida attempted a law alike to Oregon's that was challenged and defeated as undemocratic and unconstitutional in the Court of Justice.:eek:


    PhD Pacific Western University (Criminal Justice)
    MA Caribbean University (Criminal Justice)
    BA American University of Puerto Rico (Criminal Justice)
     
  16. galanga

    galanga New Member

    clarify, please

    Are you asking whether Oregon's laws have already been challenged in court, or are you asking people to speculate about what might happen if they were to face a hypothetical challenge in a federal court?

    Could you remind us of the details of the Florida action? That might help us see the differences (and similarities) to a potential Oregon challenge.

    G
     
  17. Steve Levicoff

    Steve Levicoff Well-Known Member

    As usual, Dennis Ruhl resorts to a personal attack when he has no reasonable argument to make on his own.

    By way of background, Alan Contreras is the administrator of Oregon's Office of Degree Authorization (ODA), and he has been a national leader on preventing the use of degree mill credentials.

    Returning to the original question, then, on what what do Mr. Contreras and the ODA staff rely for their standards?

    Perhaps the attached photo, which accompanied an article in the February 2001 issue of Oregon Business, will provide some enlightenment.

    Pictured prominently next to Mr. Contreras is a copy of Name It & Frame It? (a book reputed to have been written by a prominent, yet semi-retired, participant on degreeinfo.com).

    Res ipsa loquitur. :D
     

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