MS or MBA courses without an Undergrad?

Any examples of RA schools that allow undergrad students to take Masters level classes (MBA or MS Management, Online)?

 

http://www.ebsmba.com/

This is one of the top MBA programs in the world and it's incredibly priced.

 

Also after you get you HWU MBA you get go for you MM (Master of Management) at University of Dallas. I have a catalog about the program and in the admission section it says you need an MBA from an RA school, but you don't need a BA or BS. It sounds like a fun program and I am thinking of getting an MM after an MBA.

Bo

 

Is the HWU MBA considered an RA MBA by the University of Dallas? If so, that's a pretty slick loophole around an undergrad to a US-based advanced degree.

 

I have not asked them this exact question. However HWU has the Royal Charter, which is equal to an RA University in the US, so I don't think you will have any problems getting into the MM program at UD.

Bo

 

I've looked into the HWU in the past. It seems to be a great program with a good reputation, not RA. I understand that it has a Royal Charter, not sure what that means to American Colleges / employers. I think I could convince an admissions advisor at an RA that the Degree is legit, not sure about an employer? HWU has ads in the back of business & money magizines, people have heard of them, not sure if they are taken seriously? I would rather obtain an MBA from a low tier state college that is RA, I think?

 

I'm a student in the EBS program and just wrote my first exam - it was TOUGH (but fair) - I studied harder for my exam than I did for my law exams at a "traditional" university 10 years ago. It is very flexible and highly regarded (at least in Canada), with many large employers covering tuition for employees. I encourage you to check into it if you want a program where you'll really learn your material to get your degree.

 

bo79-superior

My comment may annoy people!

RA IS NOT EQUAL to Royal Charter! By and large, the majority of UK degree granting institutions (there are fewer than 200 when compared to 4,000 (plus??) in the USA) are (generally) superior, by and large. Inevitably, this must be so, because, unlike the USA (simply because of its size as a country), it is possible to 'police' academic standards. The USA, despite the regional accrediting associations, is unable to police academic (note academic), teaching and scholarship. The RA agencies are concerned with administrative systems, finance, etc (all important), but, by and large, in my experience, they don't concentrate on student output and academic standards. This is why, as an academic and a non-US person, I find the US RA system less than impressive as a guideline or measure of academic performance and discipline - take some of the US accredited distance-learning programmes as examples! In my view, degrees are being diluted and made worthless by the marketing claims (and I presume requirements(or lack thereof!) and speed by which people can complete a degree - a degree of ignorance?!?! So, all the people here who deplore degree mills (as do I), look carefully at certain RA programmes which, to me, are RA accredited degree mills - in my view! Now, of course, it can be argued, that these new courses are simply reflecting changes in the world of education - rubbish! Bottoms on seats (or at computers) and money in pockets! These enterprises are pushing the extremes as to what the word 'university' really means!

Of course, the very best US institutions are extremely good and impressive - the rest are simply providing a measure of education that is simply general and pretty 'every day and ordinary' for the majority of folk who attend them. How can it be otherwise?

Before anyone gets annoyed, I'm just making a general assertion which, by and large, is accepted bymany non-Americans.

AJJ

AJJ

 

Re: bo79-superior

What is your experience that leads you to your views?
I am going over to UK in July to see what my daughters experience is in the UK.

 

EBS

I checked the website and it looks like it has US government approval.

This is some of the info...

Accredited by Royal Charter back to FAQ
Heriot-Watt University received its Royal Charter in 1966. This is granted by the British government and ensures that universities and their programmes meet very high academic standards. Most countries, including the US and Canada, are happy to accept the standard of degrees awarded by universities in Great Britain as equivalent to their own.

Approved by the Department of Education (US)
The university is approved by the United States Department of Education. This approval enables US students to apply for a government loan to help with educational expenses and may help to convince your employer to sponsor you through the MBA programme.

Established for over 10 years
Edinburgh Business School has been established for over 10 years and has produced 6,500 graduates from more than 150 countries. There are currently 9,000 active students studying the MBA programme.

 

http://gsmweb.udallas.edu/prospective/mm_admission_requirement.html


I just looked at the University of Dallas website. Here is what I get:

Admission to the MM Program
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To be granted Full Admission status in the Master of Management (MM) program applicants must have earned a four-year bachelors degree and a Master of Business Administration (MBA) degree from a regionally accredited U.S. college or university, or the foreign equivalents thereof. Students cannot be admitted to the MM program in a conditional or special status.* Applications for admission are considered by the Admissions Committee according to the stated criteria and without regard to age, sex, disability, race, color, religion, or national origin.


Bottom line: University of Dallas MM program requires a four years bachelor degree + an MBA degree for admission in MM program.

 

Re: bo79-superior

Yes, your assertion is general. So general, in fact, that it's hard to give it much weight. Would you care to provide some examples of RA schools that are essentially "degree mills"? Also, how many non-Americans do you think share your view? Would these be people that you have spoken to personally, or perhaps you have seen a study or poll which supports your view?

 

Hmmmmmm......You are right. However I was going by the MM brochure that UofD sent me with the MBA information package I requested. It dose not say anything in the brochure about requiring and undergrad degree for admission. It only talks about requiring and MBA from an RA university or college.

 

I found this:

www.cambridgecollege.edu

In Cambridge Mass. (near Harvard) they are RA undergrad & Grad programs. Master of Science of Management w/o an undergrad. I'm not sure if they are online or not? If you live in Mass it seems like an option.