Is ISIM the only DETC school that offers doctorates? I'm thinking this is correct. And, has anyone taken a look at the ISIM web page? It's quite a nightmare in poor design and offers even less information than anything I would have expected. Bing
If ISIM is offering a DL doctorate, this is late breaking news to me. But, I don't think that's the case. Also, I have'nt experienced much difficulty with their web site. They do place information in unusual places like the "More Details" tab to get specific course details and, the "Apply Now" tab to get tuition information, admission info, etc. In that path, one can also send questions to Robin Thompson. She's been very good about answering my questions and following up and would recommend you correspond with her to get the details you're looking for. Bob
I must first say I am a graduate of the ISIM MS Information Management program having completed in 1996. ISIM does not offer anything beyond the Master's degree. They do not offer any doctorate programs. I am a bit surprised by your comment regarding their site as it seems ISIM's site is one of the most comprehensive. They list all their programs, all the requirements for each program, and all of the classes have descriptions. They include details of admission standards, admission requirements, tuition and fees, and transfer credits. They list their faculty and indicate their accreditation and associations. As to design, they do an exceptional job of meeting the adage "good design is not when there is no longer anything to add, rather when there is no longer anything left to take away." They do not clutter their site with wasteful spinning icons, animated gifs, or bandwidth hogging bogus images of campuses and brick and mortar environments. No single page requires a lengthy scroll to find what you are looking for. The pages are will managed with the content. I had no part in the site design, layout, or content, but I find it interesting that I find the opposite of your observation. Can you be more specific as to what constitutes the "poor design"? What information are you are looking for that you can’t find?
This question gets raised a lot, so there is good information in the archives. There are several schools that are DETC-accredited and offer doctorates. However, DETC is not yet approved by the USDOE to accredit these programs, so they're technically outside the accreditation. St. Augustine, Concord Law, University of Leicester's Centre for Labour Market Studies, and International Management Centres all offer doctorates. DETC published guidelines on accrediting first professional doctoral degree programs; I have a copy. Nothing illuminating there, though. First professional doctoral programs would seem a natural (especially because they're course-based and normally do not require a dissertation). However, I wonder whether or not DETC accreditation of first professional programs would suffice for licensing purposes? Oh, and ISIM does not offer the doctorate, within or outside DETC accreditation. Rich Douglas
Paul, Don't be offended, please. I made a huge mistake with the name. I was thinking of IMC and not ISIM. Yes, I agree that ISIM has a fairly good page. IMC is the one I was thinking of. It's a poor site and I was nearly certain that they also offered a doctorate program. My apologies to all ISIMites and to ISIM. Bing
Bing, No apologies necessary. As you note, the IMC site is short on info. It seems to want you to directly contact the regional IMC parner for more information. I didn't see any reference to doctoral programmes, though it may have been there. I did see where they say "IMCA has been accredited by the DETC since 1985 for programmes study courses up to and including Masters". The US partner is The University of Action Learning at http://www.u-a-l.org It does sound like an interesting way to do things.
It appears they've taken down any reference to the doctoral programs, but they were there. I've also got a hard copy of their promotional literature (from about two years ago) that discusses them. Maybe they've dropped them. After all, they weren't covered by DETC, they're hard to admistrate, and they don't fit neatly into little packages like course-based master's programs. Rich Douglas
Good afternoon, Rich! I was just reading the Leicester CLMS brochure (with accompanying CD-ROM), and the highest degree mentioned is the Master of Science. Leicester's general postgraduate prospectus does mention the availability of the MPhil/PhD by research, but it doesn't refer to any offerings at the doctoral level within the Centre for Labour Market Studies. Is there a special program at the CLMS (perhaps a professional doctorate) that isn't being mentioned in the "boilerplate" materials being sent out by the Centre? When you get a chance, please let me know. Thank you.
My information comes second-hand from John Bear, who says the Centre does offer the doctorate. However, it is not part of their distance offerings. The point I was making was that a school or program may be accredited by DETC, yet offer other degrees not covered by that accreditation. DETC appears to be heading towards getting approval from the U.S. DOE to accredit doctoral programs (at least, first professional degrees if not research-based programs like the Ed.D. or Ph.D.), but they have to show they can do it before being approved to do so. Yossarian would've been impressed. Rich Douglas, who thinks Lt. Milo would've run one helluva degree mill.
Thanks for the info on Leicester. By the way, I agree that Milo could get you anything. Of course, Major Major Major might fit the "operator" bill as well. Wasn't he the one who always slipped out the back window of the tent to avoid trouble coming in the front? Kind of like Wyoming, South Dakota, and related areas... You had to be crazy if you wanted to fly combat missions...
They made him a squadron commander because his last name was "Major," promoting him from captain. I believe he was a non-flying supply officer. He (played by Bob Newhart) told his sergeant (played by Norman Fell) to only let people in to see him when he wasn't there.
