CCHS Update

Received the 2004 catalog from California College for Health Sciences today.

As most of you know I enrolled in their M.S. program nearly two year's ago.

CCHS underwent major changes in January of this year. They are now part of Stevens-Henager College, Utah.

When I enrolled the tuition was only $133 pch for associates through master's degree programs.

Now the tuition is $148-$295 for an associate's degree;

$175-$350 for a bachelor's degree; and,

$225-$450 for a master's degree.

This year CCHS has added the Master of Science in Nursing degree that looks very comprehensive and thorough.

CCHS has a myriad of financial plans and options including their own in-house EduPlan.

Institutional grants are also available for students who demonstrate economic hardship. Students who support large families, are single parents, or have recognized physical disabilities are also eligible. The grant reduces the tuition by up to 50%.

It looks as if CCHS has made it possible for ANYONE who wants a college education to obtain one.

CCHS also offers a 20% scholarship to graduates who complete an average of three semester credits per month with a 3.0 GPA. So far, I have a 3.5 and the money can be sent on to Trinity.

The scholarship, in cash, is sent to the student upon graduation.

All in all, even with my complaining about their having been slow since new ownership, I am more impressed with CCHS now than when I enrolled.

I believe they will be RA in due time.

Now, if they will just send my my final two courses!

 

No one will ever receive the 20% discount

It is imposible because CCHS will not send the materials in a timely manner or grade papers in time for a student to advance.

IMHO, CCHS is the worst school I have ever had the misfortune to contact. I was ripped off! DETC should investigate their very slow turn around time.

Jimmy, you mentioned you are still waiting for your last two courses and have apparently been waiting for quite some time. How can you infer that CCHS will become RA?

Stay away from CCHS unless you have tons of patience and don't mind taking your time completing your masters. At least I have the satisfaction of making certain that my employer did not sign a respiratory therapy contract with them...

 

Re: No one will ever receive the 20% discount

Until the new ownership and the transition and changes, I had no problems with CCHS.

When any organization undergoes new management there is very seldom if ever a smooth transition.

I have worked in addictions and mental health for many years and a number of the organizations for which I worked underwent new ownership and/or management.

Things were chaotic for a long period of time.

Other than the slowness due to the transition period, I have been very satisfied with CCHS and have learned much.

You will be able to find malcontents (not speaking of you) in any school, RA, NA, or Unacc.

I am sorry you have had such a difficult time. Take care and the best of luck to you.

 

CCHS Nursing Programs

CCHS does have new nursing programs (BSN/MSN). CCHS is accredited by DETC but they are not accredited by a recognized nursing association like NLNAC or CCNE. In other words, in the world of nursing these would not be accepted as accredited degrees.

So nurses should be aware before enrolling in CCHS nursing degrees. With all the other nursing accredited and regioanlly accredited online degrees available; there are much better choices than CCHS.

 

Expansion - Stevens-Henager/College America appears to be expanding at a relatively rapid rate. In addition their Utah and Colorado campuses, recent acquisition of CCHS and quasi recent takeover of a bankrupt school in Las Vegas, this educational corporation is advertising for positions through several western states, including Arizona and Idaho.
Tuition - Stevens-Henager tuition was ~$250 q/h. This equates to roughly $44,000 for a bachelors degree. Overpriced, IMO, especially for a NA school. But, to each his or her own.
Regional Accreditation - They recently changed over to ACCSCT from ACICS. This change, in addition to the rapid growth of enrollments (at least from what I've observed,) is, IMO, evidence against this educational corporation having much interest in obtaining RA.

Good luck,
Tony

 

Re: CCHS Nursing Programs

 

Re: CCHS Nursing Programs

 

Yes, Bill, this is certainly true as it is true some enroll in "less-than-wonderful" schools and/or degree mills to avoid any serious study and quality work.

Even with a Bethany Th.M. and Ph.D., I was accepted into the University of the Free State.

And there are a number of schools that will allow "provisional" enrollment of students with unaccredited degrees.

You also have to remember that many, like me, had limited options in 1982 (Th.M.). There were some additional options in 1991 (Ph.D.) but the options today, especially with the Internet, are far greater than in 1982 and 1991.

Additionally, it is basically the student, not the school, who will determine the level of education he or she receives. There are many reports of students in major universities who "just get by" doing as little as they can. They graduate being about as ignorant as when they enrolled.

On the other hand, some, like me, will pour more than is expected into studies, regardless of the accreditation or lack of accreditation.

For instance, at Bethany (PhD) I always immersed myself more deeply into the studies and papers than was required. I went "the extra mile."

I didn't just accept what was "spoon fed" me. I searched, researched, and searched again, until I was satisfied with what I was being taught or I challenged it.

In all the pastoral counseling courses, I read nearly three times the required reading. I poured myself into the DSM and didn't just want to learn the basics as was par for the courses.

I read collateral material regarding the DSM and methods of interpreting it and employing it.

In addition to reading and studying Wright, Adams, Collins, and others; I read, studied, and incorporated Haley, Beck, Sullivan, Horney, and others into my work, research, and papers.

The bottom line, Bill, is one is going to get out of an education what one puts into it, whether accredited or not. At least that's what I do.

When my first courses from Trinity arrive, I will follow the same path as I did at Bethany and am currently doing at CCHS. I will learn more than they expect me to, will read more than the required assignments, and will engage in more challenging research than required.

This is just the way I am.

 

Hi Bill:

One of the striking things about Earlham School of Religion, at least in the 1980's, was the very generous availiability of financial aid. A good Friend of mine (sorry about the pun) who was greatly involved with ESR and IYM and FUM at that time showed me how ESR made money available so that no student who was admitted and performed creditably should have to forego enrolment or leave, how money was available to both Quaker and non-Quaker students, and was not restricted along race or gender lines. He also told me that ESR tended to seek out students from beyond the traditional geographical areas of Friends numerical strength (PA, OH, NY, IN, IL, IA, NC, KS, west coast), and showed me documentation that apart from schools where denominationally linked students were simply given a free ride, ESR had the lowest tuition of any ATS-accredited school, at least in the midwest.

How this has changed since the federation with the (real) Bethany Theological Seminary, upon the latter's move from Oak Brook IL to Richmond, I cannot say. I can assert that it was so in the 1980's on the very best Friendly (sorry) authority.

 

This is interesting. I pulled out my ESR transcript and see I matriculated 9/13/79 and my last course was in 1982.

I withdrew from this course and was called by Keith Esch who told me something like "We don't want you to leave," or something like that and told me they could work something out.

Unfortunately, I couldn't afford the terms that were proposed. I was not aware of any kinds of special financial aid at the time and no one mentioned it to me.

Perhaps this came into being a few years later, I don't know.

I am still upset with the VA. My father was a disabled veteran (100%) and all his children received a free undergraduate education.

When I went to Augusta State and ESR I went under my own benefits but for some reason the VA counted my undergrad benefits against my own benefits.

I lost every argument with them. I still don't understand it. I would liked to have finished at ESR.

 

1. There are quite a number who do feel everyone who selects UA do so to avoid quality work. So, I just threw that in there.

2. The Free State was very impressed with my proposal.

3. No, I do not, off hand.

4. I really don't disagree with anything else you said.

 

Indeed, Bill. Je suis partout.

The serenity of firsthand information from an unimpeachable source is a joy forever to a church historian. Much like that serenity, I suppose, which comes from doing real exegesis of the real New Testament.

 

To quote those four over-rated Liverpudlians, "Yeah, yeah, yeah!"

I gave you every opportunity to grow up but you continue to engage in juvenile behaviors, insults, and taunts.

Therefore, you are now on my "ignore list."

Go blow your bag of wind in another's direction!

 

Never saw the movie, Bill.

Would rather get Janko sanctified!

Thanks again for the "good luck." My first set of courses should be here in a few weeks.

Enjoy your walk.

 

Hi Bill: How strange that a compliment to you should be so ill-taken by someone else. In fairness, just as you are able to give your exegetical rationales, so I can name my principal source on ESR: Elton Trueblood. Many years of conversation with a recorded minister in Indiana Yearly Meeting (who, like many at ESR, couldn't stand Trueblood because of Trueblood's conservative politics) were an additional source of reliable information. The time period in question was the early 80's. Despite profound theological disagreements (Elton said to me once "You're wrong on everything, Janko, but you make a good case.") I never had any reason to distrust the factual reliability of what Trueblood told me. His untoward tendency to call up people and then hand the phone to me to verify his statements was embarrassing, but I learned a lot that way.