"Dual 18" Master's programs?

That is great question Steve, I am intersted in this same subject.

 

Excellent question!

Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?

 

More about the 18 credit rule.

This shall forever prove my ignorance, but here goes.
I'm very interested in this subject. For instance. A class like "Southern Culture" what degree with 18 credits must one have to teach that? And "Humanities" beside the general humanities masters like HUX, what degree? "Film Studies" is taught here by an english prof. Can anyone in the field address such things, please? If one has a . . .say. . . english Masters and a Psych masters, is it common for that person to teach both subjects at the CC level if they wish?

 

You could probably design such a thing within the framework of many DL programs. Most schools outline the degree requirements, but they're not going to care if you take extra electives.

For example, UMass-Lowell would have let me take 18 hours in Psychology, but I wouldn't have graduated until I satisfied the requirements for the M.A. in Criminal Justice. I would have ended up with a 51-hour M.A. in CJ, with the extra 18 hours in Psychology (it would not have been a "dual major").

 

Re: Amberton comes closest?

I don't think you're going to find that, at least in a DL program. Every Master's program that I've looked at has a set of core courses specific to the major, along with electives specific to the major.

If you do find such an animal, please let us know!

 

How about trying something like the Fort Hays State program? At the end of 31 credits, you have your masters degree. Start teaching with that while you complete the other six classes at a low price.

Yes, I know. It is still 49 credits total.

 

Re: More about the 18 credit rule.

One of my favorite contemporary philosophers, a man named Richard Rorty, has his PhD in Philosophy yet his current academic position is in a university department of Literature. How did he cross over? Publications. He had enough publications within the Literature area to allow for this appointment. I know this does not directly answer your question but I think it represents another route to the destination you seek.
Jack

 

FWIW.... currently working on a Masters (MLA) with a dual concentration, for 36 hrs. 18-history, 18-political science. The reason? To qualify to teach on the jr. college level in each area. The major actually requires no more than 27 hrs in your concentration, then the last nine hrs in another disipline, religion, history, political science etc. But they don't care as long as you have the money, time, and earn 36 hours! A dual masters is the way to go if you plan on teaching in such an environment, you spread out (although thin) your opportunities for employment.

Buckwheat's random thoughts

 

And the school is?

 

Just FYI on subject (GENERALLY) at AMU

FYI FWIW

I inquired on this subject of AMU and while they will not allow a double major for an MA, they will transfer 15 hours from a first MA to a second which saves you 40% in hours, money and time.

Of course they are not RA yet but are candidates for RA which is a step in the right direction.

They are inexpensive and have some unique courses of study.

 

Ooooppps, sorry the school is Converse College, a local B&M

 

Re: Amberton University and American College

The short answer is.... there are no short answers when dealing with SACS.

It seems that SACS is becoming more stringent on insuring that instructor qualifications exactly match the area in which they are teaching (according to their definition, which they do not publish, and which seems to vary depending on the individuals on the review team.) I believe that El Paso Community College recently had to let go about 150 adjuncts due to this "matching" problem.

Ironically, while SACS' actions seems to be becoming stricter, their written guidelines are becoming more lax. They recently switched from the "Criteria for Accreditation" to the "Principles of Accreditation," completely rewriting all of their guidlines. In theory, this should give colleges more flexibility, and address many of complaints about accreditation, such as those often voiced here in regard to DL programs. In reality, in some areas, it has just made things murkier.

Anyway, the point is that schools tend to have slightly different minimum standards, and the only way to know for sure is to contact the schools in which you are interested. (And keep in mind that even then, it may change if they have a SACS visit coming up.)

My guess is that, given the current climate, Counseling will not work as a qualification for Psychology. Just a guess, though.

 

Re: Re: More about the 18 credit rule.

And if he teachs in a university in SACS jurisdiction, they will probably receive a formal notification regarding faculty qualifications. I know it doesn't make sense, but that seems to be the way it is at the moment.

 

Re: A rose by any other name would smell differently to SACS

SACS is somewhat narrow in interpreting courses. I have a PhD in Human Services (Professional Counseling Concentration) and although I have courses in Biological Bases of Behavior, Social Influences of Behavior, Cognitive-Affective Basis of Behavior, to name a few, SACS will not accept them as required hours for teaching psychology. Go figure!!!!!!!!!!